02-01-2010, 07:45
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02-01-2010, 07:53
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Well, there never have been that many guys in Special Forces, but the world is filled with Green Berets...
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02-01-2010, 08:11
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They're everywhere - here's a chart and some pics to help you identify them. 
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02-01-2010, 12:04
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Impostors are every where!  My Dad told me that after the WW2 war(he was a combat medic in the pacific) that wherever he went after the war there must have been a 100,000 guys that claimed they were on the first wave that hit Omaha beach...........  Same thing about that many claiming to have been on the first wave hitting the beach at Iwo Jima......... 
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02-01-2010, 12:39
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I do not do this, but I'm curious none-the-less.
Do you differentiate between those who wear SF items (belt buckles for example) to pass as SF and those who may wear SF items so that when asked, can express respect but not membership?
This question occurs because of the popularity of "awareness" rubber wrist bands. I do wear a health related one of those, but I earned it  . I hope I am doing a service regarding awareness by stimulating conversation of an often undiagnosed problem.
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02-01-2010, 12:39
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Originally Posted by lksteve
Well, there never have been that many guys in Special Forces, but the world is filled with Green Berets...
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Yup, I met one a few years ago. Guy looked like 350lbs of chewed bubblegum and was sporting a "RANGER" tee-shirt. I asked him what battalion he was in he answered "1st Battalion". He asked me what unit I served in and I said 5th Gp and a few other places, he then said he was also in 5th Gp, I said "oh yeah, what ODA?" His answer,
"1st Platoon ODA"
If I was not laughing as hard as I was after that answer I would have killed him.
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02-01-2010, 12:47
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Originally Posted by HowardCohodas
I do not do this, but I'm curious none-the-less.
Do you differentiate between those who wear SF items (belt buckles for example) to pass as SF and those who may wear SF items so that when asked, can express respect but not membership?
This question occurs because of the popularity of "awareness" rubber wrist bands. I do wear a health related one of those, but I earned it . I hope I am doing a service regarding awareness by stimulating conversation of an often undiagnosed problem. |
Those that wear Special Forces items that are "not" related to a Special Forces soldier probably watch Richard Simmons work out videos and listen to Barry Manilow records. 
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02-01-2010, 12:58
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Those that wear Special Forces items that are "not" related to a Special Forces soldier probably watch Richard Simmons work out videos and listen to Barry Manilow records. |
Damn, now I have to clean ice tea from my shirt, laptop keyboard and screen and my pants. Sure is a good thing I work at home.
I feel better, because I don't do that stuff either. 
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02-01-2010, 13:07
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Those that wear Special Forces items that are "not" related to a Special Forces soldier probably watch Richard Simmons work out videos and listen to Barry Manilow records. |
I heard Richard Simmons tabbed on his second patrol at Ranger School and was a USMA grad. As for Barry I think he IS a Seal.
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02-01-2010, 13:37
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I heard Richard Simmons tabbed on his second patrol at Ranger School and was a USMA grad. As for Barry I think he IS a Seal.
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Richard Simmons was on the the same team as Mr. Rogers
He's killed more men than smallpox.
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02-01-2010, 17:53
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The Military Officer's Association monthly pub carried a five page article entitled " Decorated in Shame". I found it interesting that actor Brian M. Dennehy, of Silvarado fame, was included as having been convicted for falsely claiming Vietnam service.
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02-02-2010, 05:27
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Sorry, y'all. Gotta say this.
It's not so much that the guys who "claim" to be QP's want the recognition. What the hell, the accomplishments of QP's should be a source of great pride for those who actually did the job. AAMOF, every US citizen can be extremely proud of the service offered by QPs, or those who received recognition for Above and Beyond service. But, what chaps my ass is that those who only served in small, inglorious roles in any of our services and then fake something more glorious somehow thinks that his/her service in that hapless but real capacity is not enough to be proud of. That's crap. Assholes who fake the details of a more glorious or whiz-bang service than they actually performed degrade the millions of us who serve in the mundane, potato pealing roles. I'm a non-QP guy, but I'm extremely proud of my service. In my opinion, any service to our country that is done honorably is cause for great pride, and those who fake it insult all the rest of us who serve, regardless of whether the service was as a super-chief or as the one of the clumsy braves who stayed in the brush and held the horses.
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02-02-2010, 05:49
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............. But, what chaps my ass is that those who only served in small, inglorious roles in any of our services and then fake something more glorious.................
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At times I hang out with guys who served in the various services. No heros, just guys who did their jobs and got out - but the stories - everybody has a number of good ones. The Navy and Coast Guard guys have a bunch - who'da' thunk chippin' paint could be the start of a great story. Deck Division must have been an interesting place.
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02-02-2010, 05:57
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There's nothing better than a good story, Pete, but I'd bet every service has their "deck division", sea stories, etc. Not just unique to the Navy or Coast Guard. The fun stops when those deck-apes (or ground pounders) start believing their own wildassed yarns. That's when someone quiet and unseen needs to gently slap the crap out of them.
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02-02-2010, 06:31
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At times I hang out with guys who served in the various services. No heros, just guys who did their jobs and got out - but the stories - everybody has a number of good ones. The Navy and Coast Guard guys have a bunch - who'da' thunk chippin' paint could be the start of a great story. Deck Division must have been an interesting place. |
Or the Hanger Deck for that matter!!
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