11-08-2009, 17:18
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WWII Guns
Greetings.
Used the search button for "gun rack" or "gun storage" and did not come up with anything. Am asking because I inherited my Uncles WWII guns recently, and brought them home. (1930's model auto's, I was told?)
Want to have a rack built for them, as there are five very long "rifles", that I will post pics of here very soon.
Was curious if anyone had ideas on how to go about commisoning a gun rack to be built for personal storage/display?
Hope it is okay to ask here...and thanks for any replies.
Holly
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11-08-2009, 17:47
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Originally Posted by echoes
Greetings.
Used the search button for "gun rack" or "gun storage" and did not come up with anything. Am asking because I inherited my Uncles WWII guns recently, and brought them home. (1930's model auto's, I was told?)
Want to have a rack built for them, as there are five very long "rifles", that I will post pics of here very soon.
Was curious if anyone had ideas on how to go about commisoning a gun rack to be built for personal storage/display?
Hope it is okay to ask here...and thanks for any replies.
Holly
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1st have someone check to see if the weapons are empty...
My 2nd suggestion is to have them apprised for insurance purposes. Little gems occasionally pop up in this sort of transaction. I don't want to get your hopes up but some turn of the century weapon can be very valuable.
3nd display racks are simple affairs and can be found at any good gun shop. But be advised they are far from secure and only invite the curious to touch and fondle,, and the criminal to steal. A moderate investment in a safe for well under 1K$ is a better idea. Beside the security a safe gives,, it also keeps the greasy little hands off the metal. A safe can be environmentally controlled with a simple light bar that drives out the humidity. This is especially prudent in the North where you Yankees don't run you AC 24/7, like we do.
4rd,, don't clean the weapons until you have had competent appraisal. People have taken 20K$ weapons and scraped off 100 yrs worth of patina, reducing them $1.380 wall hangers.. Clean lint free linen rag, light oil, nothing more.
Good Luck...
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11-08-2009, 18:06
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1st have someone check to see if the weapons are empty...
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Very good advice. Buddy of mine purchased a WWII demolitions kit bag from a widow at a garage sale, it still had real blasting caps in it... careful with that WWII stuff!
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11-08-2009, 19:49
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Echos - Follow JJ_BPK's advice. Unless you have a walk-in vault (Charlton Heston's place anyone?) storing firearms in display racks is criminally irresponsible, especially today. Personally, I'd recommend spending a little extra for a quality safe; they'll store a lot more than just firearms. Bottom line - WWII doesn't mean demilled. I've got a couple Garands that're still formidable weapons. I certainly wouldn't want a gang banger to get its hands on them.
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11-08-2009, 20:15
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To secure weapons,...
Take a look at these.
FYI, it is for sale.
WD
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11-08-2009, 21:16
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Alas, it's a different world and the days of showing off your guns on the wall have passed. A safe is the only way to go. I have one. Send the gunz to me and I'll look after them.
Looking forward to pics. Love those old World War Twice rifles!
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11-09-2009, 06:57
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I found this in my grandfather's basement after he passed away. I have not had time to clean it up right, just clean the bolt, barrel, and bolt assembly.
Arisaka Type 38...... story behind it, from my grandmother is that my grandfather's brother picked it up and brought it back as a "souvenir." He used it to hunt deer in South Alabama. My grandfather got it when his brother passed away and its been in his basement hiding behind junk for 40 years. We found it after cleaning the basement up for my grandmother.
The markings are all on the weapon, along with the "mum."
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11-09-2009, 07:04
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The markings are all on the weapon, along with the "mum."
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Good find,, Must be an early return, as I understand it, after the war the chrysanthemum had to be ground off the frame??
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11-09-2009, 08:33
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Thank you gentlemen, for all the replies. Good points to consider about storage, safety, and handeling. (They are loaded at this point, but will stay locked up in a closet that has limited access, for the next week.)
Looking forward to posting the pictures of them, and some photos from Germany, with my Unlce and his friends sitting on the back of Hitler's car, the day after we bombed.
Again, Thank you!
Holly
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11-09-2009, 10:29
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Good find,, Must be an early return, as I understand it, after the war the chrysanthemum had to be ground off the frame??
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That's correct. Because the flower was the imperial symbol of the emperor, they were all ground off once the war ended. I have one myself that was given to me by a friend that still has a full mum. Gun show types get pretty excited whenever I bring it around and they see the mum. I've been told that with it, the rifle is certainly worth a few hundred more dollars. The 6.5x50 JAP is NO cheap round though. And hard to find.
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11-09-2009, 11:46
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Originally Posted by triQshot
I found this in my grandfather's basement after he passed away. I have not had time to clean it up right, just clean the bolt, barrel, and bolt assembly.
Arisaka Type 38...... story behind it, from my grandmother is that my grandfather's brother picked it up and brought it back as a "souvenir." He used it to hunt deer in South Alabama. My grandfather got it when his brother passed away and its been in his basement hiding behind junk for 40 years. We found it after cleaning the basement up for my grandmother.
The markings are all on the weapon, along with the "mum."
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Nice find. Those Type 38s are pretty pricey these days.
An old fellow I worked with about 20 years ago said he had an old gun he wanted me to see. Next day he brought in a Type 99 with bayonet and monopod in excellent condition. I asked him where he got it. "A place called Tarawa. You probably never heard of it", he said.
I shook his hand and I assured him I had.
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11-11-2009, 08:38
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Here is picture #1 of Hitlers Benz. There are many more to scan, but have this one done, and thought today was a good day to post it.
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11-11-2009, 10:19
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Hey echoes,
If you have any nice '03 Springfields in that collection I'll galdy buy one off you.
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11-14-2009, 15:03
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11-14-2009, 15:07
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