11-03-2009, 15:54
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9 months later,, and now it begins...
ABC is doing a semi-biographical series on POTUS.
It will air 7 p.m. Tuesday..
Watch it if you dare...
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Imagine this.
At a time of political turmoil, a charismatic, telegenic new leader arrives virtually out of nowhere.
He offers a message of hope and reconciliation based on compromise and promises to marshal technology for a better future that will include universal health care.
The news media swoons in admiration -- one simpering anchorman even shouts at a reporter who asks a tough question: "Why don't you show some respect?!"
The public is likewise smitten, except for a few nut cases who circulate batty rumors on the Internet about the leader's origins and intentions.
The leader, undismayed, offers assurances that are soothing, if also just a tiny bit condescending: "Embracing change is never easy."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entert...,7062976.story
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The Guy with lots of tin foil,, Wanna share???...
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11-03-2009, 17:14
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It will air 7 p.m. Tuesday.
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Alas, I've got plans and will be unable to indoctrinate I mean educate I mean inform myself about the president's life. And that is a shame. I have the perfect set up for watching this type of a program.
On the bright side, the exaggerated and accelerated adulation of the current president means that sustained critical inquiry from folks who cannot be easily dismissed by the man's avid fans will begin sooner rather than later. Or so I'd like to think. He's got a pretty big bandwagon.
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11-03-2009, 17:41
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"Obie is my savior;I shall not want"... 
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11-03-2009, 18:38
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Well, here's some good news then:
http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen?id=8987651&pid=4380645
Maybe we'll take some time to think about this before bankrupting the country...
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11-03-2009, 18:47
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In others news...
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V as an Alien Allegory Attack Against Barack Obama
ABC's new sci-fi series V kicks off tonight. It concerns a charismatic leader who comes out of nowhere promising a bright future and a better life for all Americans. Is that leader Barack Obama or is it a space lizard?
On the show, it is definitely a space lizard (maybe Balloon Boy's dad's conspiracy theories about lizard people were right all along!), but like a Chicago Tribune review by Glenn Garvin points out, it could also be about our nerd president.
Welcome to ABC's "V," the most fascinating and bound to be the most controversial new show of the fall television season. Nominally a rousing sci-fi space opera about alien invaders bent on the conquest (and digestion) of all humanity, it's also a barbed commentary on Obamamania that will infuriate the president's supporters and delight his detractors.
Anna is the beautiful and charming leader of the aliens—knows as V's because they are visitors—and she tells the world that her people can fix everything that is wrong with society. She has the liberal media brainwashed, and they all go along with stories about how great and wonderful she is. Of course, there is a fringe group who rebel against her and want to expose them as the evil-doing, reptile skinned, foreigners that they really are. Of course, these are the heroes of the show. Wow, that really does sound like the teabaggers! There's even a religious rebel named Father Jack, which is basically an anagram of George W. Bush.
It certainly wouldn't be new for a sci-fi series to be an allegory about modern society (Battlestar Galactica, anyone?) but it would be sort of odd for a sci-fi show on a major network to give credence to tactics and delusions of the far right. The birthers will be lapping up a show about a foreign-born president who comes to snatch society out of their clutches, and Glenn Back and his cronies will love to see a media that is overtaken by liberals and keeps the truth away from the "real Americans." But what will everyone else think?
The sci-fi culture usually veers to the left in its political allegory (again, see Battlestar or this summer's upbeat Star Trek that was an endorsement for the hopeful future that the Obama administration promised to usher in). The original 1983 miniseries that the show is based on was an anti-fascist message that preyed on "the aliens are coming, the aliens are coming" invasion fears of the Cold War. This is what it has been warped into. We find it hard to believe that thinly-veiIed conservative propaganda will find a strong foothold with the core sci-fi audience, and as for those leaning to the right, they tend to like their entertainment much more straightforward. Why try to figure out what all those lizard people mean when they can just watch Jack Bauer bash people's heads in on 24? That's their idea of fun.
Our prognosis, keep picking on the president and the only letters that V will get are D.O.A.
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11-03-2009, 21:56
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Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor
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"YES WE CAN!!!"
Promises, promises.
Maybe he and Kate Gosselin should do a show together. They both love the spotlight and they both have sold important people down the river in order to bask in its brightness. Kate sold her children and her marriage, and Obama sold the American citizens.
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11-04-2009, 07:23
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I watched that show. Alot of parallels.
I also watched it when it came out in the 80's(?)
Yeah....I'm a sci-fi geek
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11-04-2009, 08:05
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I watched that show. Alot of parallels.
I also watched it when it came out in the 80's(?)
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But they made the trains run on time....
Yeah I remember the 80's version. Obama wasn't around back then but the plot was the same. Alien visitors thought to be benevolent turn out to be eating our pet guinea pigs for hors doeuvres. I recall the parallels being drawn back then between the lizards and Nazis (or Commies, depending on your political mindset).
I thought the old one was a better series from what I've seen so far. I was a bit bored with the one last night. The aliens were revealed as bad guys almost immediately. Less than an hour into it we find out they are intergalactic evil incarnate, there is a resistance movement, and even some of the scaly dudes are human sympathizers. Human chicks are so hot the aliens want to marry them. 
High tech CGI special effects doesn't necessarily improve a story.
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11-04-2009, 16:36
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I loved the show as a kid. I can't imagine that this new version can be better than the old one.
It will be interesting to see who the "savior" will be in this version.
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11-04-2009, 16:39
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I loved the show as a kid.
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God, I feel old....... 
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11-04-2009, 16:53
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IMO, the show that shows the most signs of being critical of the current administration and Democrats more generally is The Good Wife on CBS.
Set in Chicago, the show follows the aftermath of an Eliot Spitzer-type scandal. While the title character, Alicia Florrick, played winningly by Julianna Margulies, seeks to get her life back on track as she restarts her own legal career, the Cook County state's attorney's office, some local LEOs, and a few judges show how the system is more interested in politics than in justice.
YMMV.
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11-04-2009, 17:02
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Mmmmmmmmmmmm...politics...is there nothing they can't do wrong. 
και έτσι πηγαίνει…
Rchrd's €.02 
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11-06-2009, 13:32
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My wife is from Toronto area and her and I go round and round about Obama every time his name comes up.
The VP came to my deployed location and I was crewing the security bird because they were afraid Ole Joe might ask me a question and I would answer honestly. Two whole days and never had contact once.
If only I could say what's on my mind.
On a different note the Secret Service guys were really down to earth folks. I liked em a lot.
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11-06-2009, 15:37
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One of the SF companies I work with was in Iraq and got tasked to pull exterior security for a visit by President Obama.
When it was winding down, the Secret Service Liaison told the Commander that if anyone want to get pics with the POTUS, there was a little free time in the schedule. Allegedly, the CO asked the teams, "Hey, anyone want a picture with the President?" He tallied the responses, and said, "No thanks, we're good to go."
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11-06-2009, 15:56
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One of the SF companies I work with was in Iraq and got tasked to pull exterior security for a visit by President Obama.
When it was winding down, the Secret Service Liaison told the Commander that if anyone want to get pics with the POTUS, there was a little free time in the schedule. Allegedly, the CO asked the teams, "Hey, anyone want a picture with the President?" He tallied the responses, and said, "No thanks, we're good to go."
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The trip: Million
The no's: Priceless
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