07-19-2004, 15:06
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What attributes make a great medic?
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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07-19-2004, 15:39
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Closely guarded sense of compassion.
Compassion provides the "want" to fix something that is wrong with their patient.
Closely guarded to provide the standoff required when dealing with a grave situation, and also to ensure that someone that really isn't as bad off as they think doesn't take advantage of the medic.
Technical expertise to be able to render the required procedures and medications the way that they need to be done.
Strength to handle the burden of being "Doc" and everything that comes with that. Late night IV's for the team that went out to do some "cohesion" exercises TDY, patching up the breacher that decided "Min safe" wasn't close enough to admire his handiwork and shock wave propigation. Dragging their friend to a safe place after an IED went off on patrol, so they can live to fight another day.
A sense of humor... Things you run into can be extremely humorous... Joe just decided to shave downstairs and just happened to have some recreational activities with a 69H barracks wench and thinks he has the herpes, when it's just ingrown hairs... I know nothing of this personally though.
Above all, a professional attitude. You know your shit, don't second guess yourself. If you don't think you have the right answer, pull out a reference and make sure your diagnosis is consistent with what is going on.
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07-19-2004, 15:44
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Excellent! I see you've thought about this.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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07-19-2004, 15:57
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The ability to always learn. If someone does something you don't know, or haven't seen before, ask. In front of the patient is NOT the best time though. 
The ability to guard your person feeling, but not to keep them shut down. I still have problems letting those I love see all of me sometimes.
I think TFKilo has hit on most of them for me, without any help. 
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07-19-2004, 16:02
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When you say "person feeling" what exactly do you mean?
Have you been doing something naughty to the patients?
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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07-19-2004, 16:30
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Being able to distract someone before you jab the needle in. No, seriously.
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07-19-2004, 16:34
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Courage.
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910
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07-19-2004, 18:12
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Don't know medic's, but veterinary isn't that different:
creativity, ability to improvise, think fast
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07-19-2004, 19:23
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Don't know medic's, but veterinary isn't that different
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Huh? Medic's aren't different than vets?
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He knows only The Cause.
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07-19-2004, 19:35
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Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Huh? Medic's aren't different than vets?
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Probably referring to the patients.
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910
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07-19-2004, 19:45
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Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Huh? Medic's aren't different than vets?
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2 legs, 4 legs, some with fins - all mammals.
Characteristics required in both professions, IMHO, are similar.
When I started out studying Veterinary I was told 30% of all MD's failed Vet school first.
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07-19-2004, 19:49
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I don't know how it is now, but when I went through, we had to learn some vet medicine as well, mostly large animals. No problem for me, I was a cowboy in my younger days. Each Group had a Vet and we took him with us on MEDRETEs. Watching the Yankee medics try to get hold of a burro can make the whole trip.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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07-19-2004, 19:52
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Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
I don't know how it is now, but when I went through, we had to learn some vet medicine as well, mostly large animals. No problem for me, I was a cowboy in my younger days. Each Group had a Vet and we took him with us on MEDRETEs. Watching the Yankee medics try to get hold of a burro can make the whole trip.
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Same now.
TR
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910
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07-19-2004, 20:10
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Quote:
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Watching the Yankee medics try to get hold of a burro can make the whole trip.
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Thanks - I needed that image LMAO
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07-19-2004, 23:24
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I find the most important to be real world experience. To be a good medic you need to threat patients. There is no training in the world that that can replace real world patients. Thats why i think that a military medic must have civilian credentiels. If they have they can practise on thier own much easier.
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