VP Cheney Remarks on Obama

[Warrior-Mentor]

Remarks by former Vice President Dick Cheney
Center for Security Policy

As prepared for delivery
October 21, 2009

Thank you all very much. It’s a pleasure to be here, and especially to receive the Keeper of the Flame Award in the company of so many good friends...

READ IT HERE:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569006,00.html

Right on!

[iamwill]

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[Costa]

Sounds like a man with years of wisdom behind him. I'm only sad that he isn't in office anymore.

[Dozer523]

Too bad he didn't feel as strongly a year or two ago, he could have taken a run at POTUS.

Originally Posted by Rangertab1

Sure am glad he wasn't out hunting birds with friends while accepting the reward. His muzzle/field of fire discipline sucks.

He shot a Lawyer, what the harm in that?

Present company excluded.

[Red Flag 1]

Originally Posted by Rangertab1

Sure am glad he wasn't out hunting birds with friends while accepting the reward. His muzzle/field of fire discipline sucks.

Has VP Cheney every considered inviting obama to share a duck blind? Could be a fun time

RF 1

[Richard]

Pure Polecatus Washingtonium speak - striped, spotted, whatever...the eternally accusative language of we-they finger-pointing.

And so it goes...

Richard's $.02

[Utah Bob]

Originally Posted by Richard

Pure Polecatus Washingtonium speak - striped, spotted, whatever...the eternally accusative language of we-they finger-pointing.

And so it goes...

Richard's $.02

I wouldn't let him hold my wallet either.

[dennisw]

Five months later, in August of this year, speaking at the VFW, the President made a promise to America’s armed forces. “I will give you a clear mission,” he said, “defined goals, and the equipment and support you need to get the job done. That’s my commitment to you.”

In the fall of 2008, fully aware of the need to meet new challenges being posed by the Taliban, we dug into every aspect of Afghanistan policy, assembling a team that traveled to Pakistan and Afghanistan, reviewing options and recommendations, and briefing President-elect Obama’s team. They asked us not to announce our findings publicly, and we agreed, giving them the benefit of our work and the benefit of the doubt. The new strategy they embraced in March, with a focus on counterinsurgency and an increase in the numbers of troops, bears a striking resemblance to the strategy we passed to them. They made a decision – a good one, I think – and sent a commander into the field to implement it.

Now they seem to be pulling back and blaming others for their failure to implement the strategy they embraced. It’s time for President Obama to do what it takes to win a war he has repeatedly and rightly called a war of necessity.

Originally Posted by Richard View Post
Pure Polecatus Washingtonium speak - striped, spotted, whatever...the eternally accusative language of we-they finger-pointing.

And so it goes...

Richard's $.02

I have to disagree. Some of Cheney's points are very substantive. However, I get the impression that if he offers any negative viewpoint on Obama's policy or discusses Obama obvious waffling on Afghanistan, you consider it to be finger-pointing. Basically you're setting a stage where nothing can be said of a negative nature or it's discounted. What's left then?

Did Obama make promises to carry the fight on in Afghanistan? Is he waffling? How is that finger pointing? They ask the Bush administration not to go public with their findings on Afghanistan and then blame them for what? That the Obama administration cannot make a decision where there is risk. Same situation as the Somalia Pirates, but on a larger scale.

IMHO the threshold issue remains "are Cheney's negative comments substantive". If so, finger pointing is not the issue.

[Richard]

IMHO the threshold issue remains "are Cheney's negative comments substantive".

Exactly - but are they?

Gen. Paul Eaton (Ret.), who served more than 30 years in the United States Army and from 2003-2004 oversaw the training of the Iraqi military, responded to Dick Cheney's accusations on Afghanistan from last night:

"The record is clear: Dick Cheney and the Bush administration were incompetent war fighters. They ignored Afghanistan for 7 years with a crude approach to counter-insurgency warfare best illustrated by: 1. Deny it. 2. Ignore it. 3. Bomb it. While our intelligence agencies called the region the greatest threat to America, the Bush White House under-resourced our military efforts, shifted attention to Iraq, and failed to bring to justice the masterminds of September 11.

"The only time Cheney and his cabal of foreign policy 'experts' have anything to say is when they feel compelled to protect this failed legacy. While President Obama is tasked with cleaning up the considerable mess they left behind, they continue to defend torture or rewrite a legacy of indifference on Afghanistan. Simply put, Mr. Cheney sees history throughout extremely myopic and partisan eyes.

"As one deeply invested in the Armed Forces of this country, I am grateful for the senior military commanders assigned to leading this fight and the men and women fighting on the ground. But I dismiss men like Cheney who inject partisan politics into the profound deliberations our Commander-in-Chief and commanders on the ground are having to develop a cohesive and comprehensive strategy, bringing to bear the economic and diplomatic as well as the military power, for Afghanistan -- something Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld never did.

"No human endeavor can be as profound as sending a nation's youth to war. I am very happy to see serious men and women working hard to get it right."

http://www.nsnetwork.org/node/1442

And so it goes...

Richard's $.02

[Pete]

The Good General says "......."The record is clear: Dick Cheney and the Bush administration were incompetent war fighters. They ignored Afghanistan for 7 years with a crude approach to counter-insurgency warfare best illustrated by: 1. Deny it. 2. Ignore it. 3. Bomb it. While our intelligence agencies called the region the greatest threat to America, the Bush White House under-resourced our military efforts, shifted attention to Iraq, and failed to bring to justice the masterminds of September 11.............."

Damn - that sounds like Democrat talking points straight out of their over used playbook. And the Good General is.................?

[Dozer523]

Originally Posted by Pete

Damn - that sounds like Democrat talking points straight out of their over used playbook. And the Good General is.................?

Right Pete. This guy just isn't a team player. http://www.defendamerica.mil/article.../a061404e.html

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Dozer523

Right Pete. This guy just isn't a team player. http://www.defendamerica.mil/article.../a061404e.html

I'm not talking about his "on the job" works.

More like what has he been saying since he retired.

It would appear the Good General has found his voice, and balls, after he retired. And the voice is "bash Bush all the time."

[Dozer523]

Originally Posted by Pete

I'm not talking about his "on the job" works.

More like what has he been saying since he retired. It would appear the Good General has found his voice, and balls, after he retired. And the voice is "bash Bush all the time."

Aww come on. I doubt he found them AFTER (this is such an old, dull saw) he retired. From the looks of his bio he's had a pair of big, brass ones (bangin' "O-Rang a-Tang). Might be he held his tongue while on AD because he was busy, maybe he was professional (maybe remaining on the job was worth it to him). Maybe after defending the 1st Amendment for 30 years he decided to try it. He might be right. The former VP was more then welcome to run for POTUS. . . but did not. (we're just talkin' Pete.)