The Story of Stuff

[Surf n Turf]

Saw this on Beck tonight and decided to view the entire video for myself –
Quote from Beck – “We did some research. 7,000 schools and churches and organizations are now playing this across the country.”
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/art...cle/198/30944/

I normally don’t buy into the “government schools are indoctrinating our kids” philosophy, but I believe that this is anti-American, anti-capitalist propaganda, disguised as “education” for young kids.

As several on this board are Teachers, I wonder if this is being shown in your school / district.
SnT

The Story of Stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLBE5QAYXp8

[Richard]

Not on any standard list of supporting ed materials around here - but IMO - this would be a good video to show a HS class of Jrs/Srs who have already completed their Government, Economics, World History, and US History courses as a subject for lengthy dissection, research, and discussion - all part of becoming a savvy consumer in an information overload world.

Richard's $.02

[ZonieDiver]

It is not being shown in my school - to my knowledge. At least not in the Social Studies Department. But, who knows what goes on in the English Department??? That is another matter altogether. They love to teach everything... except English.

When and if my nutso uber-liberal government-teaching colleague in Evening School shows it - I'll know. I doubt she will, since she'd have to eliminate some of her Olbermann, Stewart, Matthews programing - as well as every speech President Obama gives. I do give her credit - she also showed President Bush's speeches - but the comments were waaaaay different!

[frostfire]

Originally Posted by Richard

this would be a good video to show a HS class of Jrs/Srs who have already completed their Government, Economics, World History, and US History courses as a subject for lengthy dissection, research, and discussion - all part of becoming a savvy consumer in an information overload world.

Concur 100e~%. Several eye-rolling moments in the beginnig, but the vid also brings forth excellent points from the middle to near the end.

Needs before wants.
Substance over style.
Function overrides fashion.

Of course, these principles won't work for the Mac target customer, and I'd be probably be lynched if I try to preach them to most females

[Surf n Turf]

Originally Posted by Richard

but IMO - this would be a good video to show a HS class of Jrs/Srs who have already completed their Government, Economics, World History, and US History courses as a subject for lengthy dissection, research, and discussion - all part of becoming a savvy consumer in an information overload world.

Richard's $.02

Richard,
I am concerned about what is being taught in our “public” schools today, and I want education to focus on teaching, not indoctrination.
The intended audience for these video’s were 1st thru 6th graders. I would doubt if they were very adept at discussions of Government, economics, U.S. / World history, nor discerning the subtle messages their young minds were assimilating.
Doesn’t this sound just a teeny little bit like the precursor of a propaganda campaign?
Maybe not as strong as NPR, but close

Sort of like:
Give me the children until they are seven and anyone may have them afterward –
St. Francis Xavier, Aug. 15, 1549

Youth and the War
From the beginning, the goal was to use the German film as a way of systematically educating the German youth. The goal was also to give the youth another method of entertainment and education.
The youth is not only the object but also the subject of its own education. Much that as a matter of course is done at home or in the school during peace is just as clearly impossible during war.
When a nation is fighting for its future, which after all is the future of its children, the youth have to be involved, they have to support the battle with their full energy. They must show through discipline, order, industry and attitude that they are worthy of their age -- Over the coming winter, they will be entertained, taught and built up. Again and again, German boys and girls will gain new enthusiasm.
The foundations must be laid early in life. -- we are setting a new ideal for the education of our youth.
Joseph Goebbels
29 September 1940
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb33.htm

SnT

[Dozer523]

This is GREAT Stuff! She had me all, "well, this isn't so bad. . . " (but, i realize that was mostly because I detest Glenn Beck who couldn't manage a linear argument in pipe) but when she got to "VOICE: Okay. So let's see what else is missing from this picture. We'll start with extraction, which is a fancy word for natural resource exploitation, which is a fancy word for trashing the planet. she lost me. I'm having the Bright Center of My Universe watch. Then we'll discuss. I love this kind of STUFF!

[Richard]

The intended audience for these video’s were 1st thru 6th graders.

If so - that's just plain developmentally wrong IMO. But like the teachers showing the Obama pledge video w/o viewing it first or having the administration approve it - there are all kinds of things going on out there in the ed realm which could be done better.

And so it goes...

Richard's $.02

[GratefulCitizen]

Originally Posted by Richard

Not on any standard list of supporting ed materials around here - but IMO - this would be a good video to show a HS class of Jrs/Srs who have already completed their Government, Economics, World History, and US History courses as a subject for lengthy dissection, research, and discussion - all part of becoming a savvy consumer in an information overload world.

Originally Posted by Richard

If so - that's just plain developmentally wrong IMO. But like the teachers showing the Obama pledge video w/o viewing it first or having the administration approve it - there are all kinds of things going on out there in the ed realm which could be done better.

And so it goes...

Richard's $.02

Would you recommend the careful limiting of media exposure to those younger than 6th graders?
(Serious question)

There's no cable tv or internet in my home, mainly because of an abundance of children under the age of 12.
Just wondering what your professional opinion as an educator is.

[Richard]

Would you recommend the careful limiting of media exposure to those younger than 6th graders?
(Serious question)

Absolutely - it's a parental prerogative which IMO far too many parents don't seem to choose to exercise today - I did it with my sons - my oldest does it with his daughters - way too much junk on TV and much of it, including so-called kids programming, is certainly not age appropriate subject matter. I think all the nature/science/history programming on PBS is the reason my middle son - who loved those type programs - scored a 35/36 on the science portion of his ACT.

FWIW - I still don't have cable or satellite - I refuse to pay for televison.

Richard's $.02

[incarcerated]

Narrator Annie Leonard claims that "over 50% of our tax money is going to our military."
Really?

"....But the truth is it's a system in CRISIS. And the reason it's a system in crisis is it's a linear system and we live on a finite planet, and you cannot run a linear system on a finite planet INDEFINITELY."
Oh sure, any grade school kid can understand that. The problem is the system.

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http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/f...asp?fndid=5184
and
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/A...%20Center1.htm

These days, I encounter a remarkable amount of energetic, irrational hostility towards capitalism from non-LEOs at work in their late 20s and early 30s. Wonder where that came from...?

[Razor]

Personally, I was inspired by the academic rigor they put into finding the sources they used to back up their claims.