The Non-Tax Tax

[JJ_BPK]

Every pay check(99%) you receive has TAX taken out. Some of that tax is for Federal INCOME, some for State INCOME, some for Social Security, and some for Medicare.. IT"S ALL TAX..

Here is a copy of the IRS explanation of the form W2. If you receive a form 1099 the fields are similar.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw2.pdf

Look at box(s) 1 thru 6,, There is no need to change the form because it already calls Medicare a TAX...

For those that purchase private health insurance, it is not a tax, it's just something you pay because you want coverage. Not unlike buying a six-pack,, or new car..

The current POTUS and Congress want to make medical insurance mandatory for everyone. In fact they want to go so far as to penalize you if you refuse to buy into the "plan". Much like the penalties you would pay if you didn't pay your income TAX...

When the government mandates you pay for government services,, it's a TAX...

The current proposed healthcare plan is a TAX...

tax
–noun

1. a sum of money demanded by a government for its support or for specific facilities or services, levied upon incomes, property, sales, etc.

2. a burdensome charge, obligation, duty, or demand.

–verb (used with object)

3. (of government)

a. to demand a tax from (a person, business, etc.).

b. to demand a tax in consideration of the possession or occurrence of (income, goods, sales, etc.), usually in proportion to the value of money involved.

4. to lay a burden on; make serious demands on: to tax one's resources.

5. to take to task; censure; reprove; accuse: to tax one with laziness.

6. Informal. to charge: What did he tax you for that?

7. Archaic. to estimate or determine the amount or value of.

–verb (used without object)

8. to levy taxes.

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Now I don't care if you are for or against POTUS' vision of healthcare, that is up to you..

Be advised he will pay for it with TAX money,,

and YOU will pay the TAX...

My $00.0002

PS: My question,, Why did Bill Clinton's staff buddy George Stephanopoulos,, ABC's in-house vetted Liberal,, ask POTUS the question?? Does Bill & Hilary want POTUS to look bad??? Is Stephanopoulos really a Right-Wing covert under-cover hi-speed operator for the war-mongering Bush Dynasty??

Video at 11PM...

The Non-Tax Tax

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Obama's Nontax Tax
On a Sunday show, the President offers a revealing definition.


President Obama didn't make much news on his round of five Sunday talk shows yesterday, with one notable exception. The President revealed a great deal about his philosophy of government and how he defines a tax increase. It turns out the President thinks a health-care tax is not a tax if he thinks the tax is for your own good.

Appearing on ABC's "This Week," Mr. Obama was asked by host George Stephanopoulos about the "individual mandate." Under Max Baucus's Senate bill that Mr. Obama supports, everyone would be required to buy health insurance or else pay a penalty as high as $3,800 a year. Mr. Stephanopoulos posed the obvious question about this kind of coercion when "the government is forcing people to spend money, fining you if you don't [buy insurance]. . . . How is that not a tax?"

"Well, hold on a second, George," Mr. Obama replied. "Here's what's happening. You and I are both paying $900, on average—our families—in higher premiums because of uncompensated care. Now what I've said is that if you can't afford health insurance, you certainly shouldn't be punished for that. That's just piling on. If, on the other hand, we're giving tax credits, we've set up an exchange, you are now part of a big pool, we've driven down the costs, we've done everything we can and you actually can afford health insurance, but you've just decided, you know what, I want to take my chances. And then you get hit by a bus and you and I have to pay for the emergency room care, that's . . ."

"That may be," Mr. Stephanopoulos responded, "but it's still a tax increase." (In fact, uncompensated care accounts for about only 2.2% of national health spending today, but that's another subject.)

Mr. Obama: "No. That's not true, George. The—for us to say that you've got to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase. What it's saying is, is that we're not going to have other people carrying your burdens for you anymore . . ." In other words, like parents talking to their children, this levy—don't call it a tax—is for your own good.

Mr. Stephanopoulos tried again: "But it may be fair, it may be good public policy—"

Mr. Obama: "No, but—but, George, you—you can't just make up that language and decide that that's called a tax increase."

"I don't think I'm making it up," Mr. Stephanopoulos said. He then had the temerity to challenge the Philologist in Chief, with an assist from Merriam-Webster. He cited that dictionary's definition of "tax"—"a charge, usually of money, imposed by authority on persons or property for public purposes."

Mr. Obama: "George, the fact that you looked up Merriam's Dictionary, the definition of tax increase, indicates to me that you're stretching a little bit right now. . . ."

Mr. Stephanopoulos: "I wanted to check for myself. But your critics say it is a tax increase."

Mr. Obama: "My critics say everything is a tax increase. My critics say that I'm taking over every sector of the economy. You know that. Look, we can have a legitimate debate about whether or not we're going to have an individual mandate or not, but . . ."

Mr. Stephanopoulos: "But you reject that it's a tax increase?"

Mr. Obama: "I absolutely reject that notion."

If you can follow this reasoning, then you probably also think that a new entitlement is the best way to reduce entitlement spending. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the Senate's individual mandate will result in new revenues of some $20 billion over 10 years because some people will choose to opt out of ObamaCare—or because they can't afford to buy in, given that other taxes and regulation will make health care more expensive. If that $20 billion doesn't count as tax revenue, then what is it?

And for that matter, what doesn't count as a nontax under Mr. Obama's definition? All taxes can be justified in the name of providing some type of service, however wasteful. Mr. Obama complains that "My critics say everything is a tax increase," as if that is his political problem. His real problem is that the individual mandate really is a tax, but the President doesn't want voters to think of it that way, because taxes are unpopular.

[Gypsy]

That interview reminded of me of the old saying about putting lipstick on a pig...

[LongWire]

Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

PS: My question,, Why did Bill Clinton's staff buddy George Stephanopoulos,, ABC's in-house vetted Liberal,, ask POTUS the question?? Does Bill & Hilary want POTUS to look bad??? Is Stephanopoulos really a Right-Wing covert under-cover hi-speed operator for the war-mongering Bush Dynasty??

Video at 11PM...

Me thinks he is waiting for a Hillary option, but I may be wrong. I forget how he summed up his opinion of Bill when he left the Clinton Admin, but it sure wasn't flattering.