The WH is watching you...

[JJ_BPK]

If you open the "links" tab and tap "who's on line", you get a list on users amd at the bottom a list of BOTS.. BOTS are automated web software that reads our posts and collects info for others..


One of the "others" is the WH...

EXCLUSIVE: W.H. collects Web users' data without notice

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...eb-users-data/

By Audrey Hudson (Contact)

EXCLUSIVE:

The White House is collecting and storing comments and videos placed on its social-networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter and YouTube without notifying or asking the consent of the site users, a failure that appears to run counter to President Obama's promise of a transparent government and his pledge to protect privacy on the Internet.

Marc Rotenberg, president of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said the White House signaled that it would insist on open dealings with Internet users and, in fact, should feel obliged to disclose that it is collecting such information.

"The White House has not been adequately transparent, particularly on how it makes use of new social media techniques, such as this example," he said.

Defenders of the White House actions said the Presidential Records Act requires that the administration gather the information and that it was justified in taking the additional step of asking a private contractor to "crawl and archive" all such material. Nicholas Shapiro, a White House spokesman, declined to say when the practice began or how much the new contract would cost.

Susan Cooper, a spokeswoman for National Archives and Records Administration, said the presidential records law applies to "social media" and to public comments "received by the president or immediate staff."

Mr. Obama signed a memo in January stating that his efforts to maintain an open government would be "unprecedented" and "ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation and collaboration."

An Obama campaign document on technology pledged that, as president, Mr. Obama "will strengthen privacy protections for the digital age and will harness the power of technology to hold government and business accountable for violations of personal privacy."

In a June 5, 2008, article in PC Magazine, Mr. Obama said, "The open information platforms of the 21st century can also tempt institutions to violate the privacy of citizens. We need sensible safeguards that protect privacy in this dynamic new world."

The National Legal and Policy Center, a government ethics watchdog, said archiving the sites would have a "chilling effect" on Web site users who might wish to leave comments critical of the administration.

Ken Boehm, a lawyer and chairman of the center, also disputed that the presidential records law applies, because the comments are pasted onto a third-party Web page and not official correspondence with the president.

"If the White House has nothing to hide, why is this cloaked in secrecy? Why won't they make the dollar amount this is going to cost public?" Mr. Boehm asked. "I don't think there is an expectation that this is being captured by the government and saved."

But Patrice McDermott, director of OpenTheGovernment.org, called the proposal "a positive development because it demonstrates a commitment from the Obama administration to meet its obligations under the Presidential Records Act."

"Additionally, I am encouraged to see the administration recognizing that it must find a way to handle the ever-expanding amount of data generated electronically. I hope the rest of the executive branch will learn from the president's leadership on this issue," Ms. McDermott said.

Shahid Buttar, executive director of the Bill of Rights Defense Committee, called for congressional oversight of the practice of collecting data.

"Given the administration's disappointing secrecy in other contexts, the Bill of Rights Defense Committee encourages Congress to conduct oversight to ensure compliance with the law, maximize transparency and protect individual privacy," Mr. Buttar said.

According to the law, the term "presidential records" means documentary materials "created or received by the president, his immediate staff or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise and assist the president, in the course of conducting activities which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President."

"It includes any documentary materials relating to the political activities of the president or members of his staff, but only if such activities relate to or have a direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President," the law says.

David Almacy, who served as President George W. Bush's Internet director, said the Bush administration did not use the then-fledgling social-networking sites in the same manner as the Obama White House, except to upload presidential speeches onto iTunes. The White House, however, did archive comments posted to its official Web site.

The proposal issued Aug. 21 calls for a contractor to "crawl and archive" social-networking Web sites where the White House maintains an official presence on seven networks: Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, Flickr, YouTube, Vimeo and Slideshare.

The collection will include the comments, tags, graphics, audio and video posted by users who don't work for the White House.

The White House has more than 333,000 fans on Facebook, and posts updates several times a day that draw hundreds of thousands of comments, both positive and negative. The White House has more than 1 million followers on Twitter and more than 87,000 subscribers on YouTube, where more than 400 videos of the president and White House briefings are posted.

It might be prudent to think about the content of your posts, both here and on other forum you visit.

Some may have a budding career ahead,, or are near retirement to protect..

My $00.0002

PS: I have google watching my ID JJ_BPK,, it is watched daily on must of the forum I post to...

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

If you open the "links" tab and tap "who's on line", you get a list on users amd at the bottom a list of BOTS.. BOTS are automated web software that reads our posts and collects info for others..


One of the "others" is the WH...



It might be prudent to think about the content of your posts, both here and on other forum you visit.

Some may have a budding career ahead,, or are near retirement to protect..

My $00.0002

PS: I have google watching my ID JJ_BPK,, it is watched daily on must of the forum I post to...

I'm right here hiding in plain sight.....

[Warrior-Mentor]

Interesting that the VERY partisan MSN has their MSNBot Spider crawling all over this site!

Oh crap! Now the White House knows I think MSN is partisan.

[nmap]

So if I wrote:

The POTUS is not a bad fellow.

Any Google search of POTUS and bad would produce a hit on my entirely innocent post.

I suppose I should not include such key terms as CIA (the Culinary Institute of America) or anything about guns, or the fact that I think gas is at a fairly low price.

Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

PS: I have google watching my ID JJ_BPK,, it is watched daily on must of the forum I post to...

Same here, all my nicks and my legal name are part of my google watch list. Amazing the stuff that turns up.

In life, I Have found, that those who often claim to be 'transparent' with nothing to hide, have the most to hide and will go to extradinary efforts to keep whatever it is hidden. They also will justify thier actions with any number of ridiculous excuses.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...091503182.html

The title to the above url is: White House Seeks Renewal of Surveillance Laws

[Sdiver]

Hey Berry.....How's the Wife and Kids doing?

Getting along okay with your MIL in the house?






Oh yeah one more thing....Phhhhhffffffftttttttttttttttt

[JJ_BPK]

No Shiite,, just received:

Google Web Alert for: jj_bpk

The WH is watching you... - Professional Soldiers ®
JJ_BPK's Avatar. JJ_BPK is offline. Join Date: Apr 2008 .... PS: I have google watching my ID JJ_BPK,, it is watched daily on must of the forum I post to. ...

Less than 6 hours after initial post...

[dac]

This is just more narcissism from the WH. BO is just like a high school girl that wants to know what everybody is saying about her.

I will be impressed when they hire a small army to mine the massive amounts of data that this has the potential to generate. Proper data mining and event correlation software is expensive and takes quite a bit of effort to get right.

[Praetorian]

Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

No Shiite,, just received:



Less than 6 hours after initial post...

I didnt even know you could do this..... Learning this was worth the price of admission.... Thanks!

Originally Posted by Praetorian

I didnt even know you could do this..... Learning this was worth the price of admission.... Thanks!

If you want to set up alerts for yourself and and/or any nick you might be using on the nets. Googel the phrase, in quotes "google alerts". The first pick will be the url for the google alerts page. Be forewarned If you have a name like my dtrs that ends in the name Page.. then you will, like she does get xx's page alerts on a regular basis. Anything that fits the criteria will be flagged and sent to you.

I agree that the WH is just fishing. It is a sad day when someone in that position is so paranoid that someone might be saying something 'bad' about the whole situation. I thought we had freedom of speech here in this country and no one ever had to live in fear of saying that someone in the WH might have stinky feet. Emphasis on think, as I have no first hand knowledge mind you.
Sad day indeed.

oh heck.. here is the url for the lazy. http://www.google.com/alerts
AM

[BigJimCalhoun]

Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

Interesting that the VERY partisan MSN has their MSNBot Spider crawling all over this site!.

There is a secret conservative undergound up there. Some MS employees might even be members here.

I look at it this way, it could be worse. Microsoft (Bing search engine) does honor all the partriotic holidays and did honor 9-11 on their home page. Google did nothing for 9-11 yet Picasso's birthday deserves a change in the home page???

[ZonieDiver]

I think this guy was on to something... long ago!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD21JDMp86c

[dac]

Originally Posted by BigJimCalhoun

Google did nothing for 9-11 yet Picasso's birthday deserves a change in the home page???

Worse that that, a day or two after 9/11 they had a logo celebrating crop circles.

This Saturday the moon is suposed to be much loser to the Earth than normally viewed, so look to the night skies.

Might also be an increase in UFO activities, been seeing some very strange things while out in the desert the past few weeks.

[Go Devil]

• Feed the fuel between the feuding groups. Disinformation. Create messages around actions of sabotage or discredit the opposing organizations. Submit fake documents and then call out the error.

• Create concern over the security of the infrastructure. Create exposure stories. If the process is believed not to be secure they are done.

• Cyber attacks against the infrastructure to get data on document submitters. This would kill the project. Since the servers are now in Sweden and France putting a team together to get access is more straightforward.

• Media campaign to push the radial [sic] and reckless nature of _____________activities. Sustain pressure. Does nothing for the fanatics, but creates concern and doubt among moderates.

• Search for leaks. Use social media to profile and identify risky behavior of employees.