08-09-2009, 22:59
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08-10-2009, 00:23
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I'm job hunting at the moment so I got all excited. Then I found I'm disqualified because of age.
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08-10-2009, 14:06
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Just wondering, but may I ask what you found alarming?
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08-10-2009, 19:51
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08-10-2009, 21:27
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Maybe it is for the upcoming 'H1N1 epidemic' some are in a fuss about, or those that appeared on the MIAC Report and don't cower to the Big Boss Mans wishes. Maybe Illegal Aliens, but I doubt that because they appear to have more rights that your typical legal citizen. Could be for the an influx of homeless folks due to the economy. Could be to watch over all those angry Kansans when the GITMO Crews arrives at Ft. Leavenworth. Maybe the NG is taking over the Kalifornia Penal System so the State can get back in the red. And maybe it is for us that refuse to hand in our firearms when Zero tramples the 2nd Amendment with the assistance of Holder, Napolitano and Sotomeyer.
Could be lots of things and probably none of the above.
I would say it is odd, but much of that has to do with the times we live, my distrust of Zero and Co...browsing Alex Jones  .....and it is human nature to resist Change.
Read the 'Survive' and 'Be Prepared' topics on PS.com and you'll rest much easier.
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08-10-2009, 21:38
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Looks to me to be simply an attempt to snag somene interested in "corrections" work and get them into the "recruiting office" ... No specific MOS is mentioned and the job description is very vague...
Bottom line, you answer that add and the recruiter that talks to you will take the conversation in any direction you want it to go and then shoehorn what the potential recruit wants into an MOS and then try and close him.
Sounds like whoever from the NG placed that add needs MP's.
YMMV.
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08-10-2009, 21:44
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Look at the definition of Internment....
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in⋅tern⋅ment /ɪnˈtɜrnmənt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [in-turn-muhnt] –noun 1. an act or instance of interning.
2. the state of being interned; confinement.
Dude, relax before either your head explodes or you get issued a tin-foil hat.
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08-10-2009, 22:11
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08-10-2009, 22:46
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<sigh> Ever hear of the 95C MOS back in the 1980s and 90s? Guess what, when the Army overhauled many MOS's back in 2004, 95C became 31E, otherwise known as an Internment/Resettlement Specialist.
Shhh, I think I hear a black helo coming my way...gotta run.
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08-10-2009, 23:39
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Shhh, I think I hear a black helo coming my way...gotta run.
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LOL! I was late to work, the motorcade was a block away, I was running down the sidewalk and the Black Helo was on top of me before I heard it....running isn't an option if you can hear them.
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08-11-2009, 07:45
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The standards certainly are set very high.
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· High School Diploma or GED (If you do not have a diploma or GED, you may still apply – ask a recruiter about how the Army National Guard can help you earn your GED.)
· Must be between the ages of 17 and 35
· Must be able to pass a physical exam and meet legal and moral standards
· Must meet citizenship requirements (see http://www.nationalguard.com/monster / for details)
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08-11-2009, 10:19
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Excuse an old timers question...............  WTF does d mean?
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08-11-2009, 10:34
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Excuse an old timers question...............  WTF does d mean?
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Yes please do tell us....
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08-11-2009, 10:37
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"d" as in "deleted" - he musta rethought his comments.
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08-14-2009, 14:21
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Peace of mind for those concerned
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE...&pageId=106742
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Thursday, August 13, 2009
LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER
WorldNetDaily Exclusive
National Guard reveals
'internment' job sites
Military confirms it follows
Constitution, civilian leaders
Posted: August 13, 2009
10:30 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
WorldNetDaily
Soldiers recruited to be "Internment/Resettlement" specialists by a series of National Guard ads concerning "civilian resettlement" locations would have assignments overseas, not within the U.S., says a National Guard spokesman who reports members pledge to follow the U.S. Constitution and take orders from American civilian authorities.
The response came several days after WND submitted questions to the National Guard about the advertisements for "Internment" soldiers who could operate in a "civilian resettlement" center.
As WND reported, the ads were raising alarm because of a series of other government moves, including the recent Department of Homeland Security report describing those who oppose abortion or support third-party political candidates as "extremists" and the Department of Defense's own categorization of protesters as "low-level terrorists."
America was founded by right-wing extremists! Get the bumper sticker that lets everyone know you have no apologies for being right!
The ads, at the GoArmy.com website as well as others including Monster.com, cite the need for:
"Internment/Resettlement (I/R) Specialists in the Army are primarily responsible for day-to-day operations in a military confinement/correctional facility or detention/internment facility. I/R Specialists provide rehabilitative, health, welfare, and security to U.S. military prisoners within a confinement or correctional facility; conduct inspections; prepare written reports; and coordinate activities of prisoners/internees and staff personnel.
Guard spokesman Col. Michael Jones, however, told WND the job description has been around for years and is one area of specialization for members of the military police corps.
They are the ones, he said, who guard captured suspects in Afghanistan or Iraq, move them to safe locations and maintain them in secure locations until they are handled by some sort of judicial process.
"You must resettle the prisoners to an area of safety where they can be interned in a safe environment," he told WND today. "This is a specific role of a military police soldier, to be trained in the proper protection and interrogation and handling of enemy combatants on foreign soil."
Such soldiers "do not ... operate a military police role in the United States," he said.
He said the National Guard has no authority over civilians in the U.S. unless a governor declares some sort of emergency and asks for help, such as when a hurricane hits.
"I don't know of a soldier who would ever contemplate to be used or be allowed to be used against citizens of America," he said.
However, he said given such orders, National Guard troops will handle crowds, provide security and respond to other needs within the United States.
"We follow orders and the Constitution of the United States," he confirmed.
Asked about pending plans in Washington that would put National Guard units under the direct control of Washington, he said he could not respond to "what if" questions, especially potential scenarios that would include an order to act against Americans..
"We're very fortunate in that the leaders we have have never placed us in a position that we even have to ask that question," he said.
He said he could not address the issue of how many such detention centers are operated by the U.S. government in Afghanistan or Iraq or their staffing needs, but did confirm that most operations in Iraq are being turned over step-by-step to Iraqi forces, military or police.
He referred WND to the U.S. Army for that information, and an Army spokesman contacted at the Pentagon said he could not provide that information.
Another National Guard spokesman, Mark Allen, said, "We ran the ad, but the soldiers that we recruit and train are primarily trained so they can be deployed overseas. We envision that eventually people get deployed and they'll be responsible for internment and relocation of people overseas."
He said such "Internment" specialists are recruited just like cooks or other positions.
A WND reader said while such explanations are reasonable, the job opportunity description is either bad timing or bad taste, because with the circumstances of government takeovers of the insurance, banking and auto industries, as well as plans to nationalize health care with provisions including government access to bank accounts, suspicion certainly is reasonable.
"While I believe that most people are inherently good, and would not seek to harm their fellow man, I also believe that many people would accept such a job with the state out of desperation. When provoked, a desperate person is capable of anything, including the unlawful detention of citizens at the behest of his government," he wrote.
Another observer wrote that the issue of "Internment" specialists was a mountain being made out of a molehill.
"Members of the U.S. military swear an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the United States, not any particular leader or political party," he wrote.
Still another reader confirmed he had the position as "Internment" specialist at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., for several years, back when the title was a "correctional specialist."
"Yes, we did do everything that the article stated and more," he wrote. But he said Americans should not fear soldiers.
"Do you think PFC Jones who is a part-timer is just going to follow this order to round up and secure Americans? How fast would the news travel if word got out that Americans are being imprisoned for voicing their opinions. Did you know that the public sector owns more weapons … than the entire Department of Defense?"
On the other hand, there were suspicions that weren't relieved.
A man who described himself as a former MP in California said he was told there are Federal Emergency Management Agency zones across the U.S.
"If the president calls a national emergency and enacts FEMA then constitutional government will be suspended and the National Guard takes over all law enforcement," he told WND. "The president remains the president until the emergency is over."
At a NationalGuard.com website, a front page video described the position thoroughly.
But one of the critics was a YouTube contributor who identifies himself as jafount and titled his video, "Want a job putting people into camps?"
Alarmed by the ads, he said it, the idea "just absolutely blew my mind."
Citing a promise that successful applicants would be trained in "search and restrain procedures," he said, "That's code for violating the 14th Amendment."
Likewise, he said, "use of firearms" is "code for depriving somebody of their life.'
The ads list as "advanced responsibilities" issues such as supervision and administration, responsibility for the "prisoner/internee" population, "custody/control for the operation of an Enemy Prisoner of War/Civilian Internee (EPW/CI) camp," and work on "custody/control for the operation of detention facility or the operation of a displaced civilian (CD) resettlement facility."
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