07-23-2009, 18:14
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Bruised Badly But Not Bleeding
I went out to shoot my new S&W 460 XVR. I changed the compensator to the lead bullet compensator. Being wimpy and easily embarrassed, I decided to go to a range where there is no safety officer and to arrive early before anyone else, so there would be no witnesses to any fiasco such as getting a new crease in my forehead from the sight blade and staggering around blinded by blood if the recoil was as bad as anticipated. Back in the old days I had a TC contender in 44 mag and 30 Herret so I had a good reference point to pain and misery of shooting the large magnum pistols. On the chance that something would happen as hilarious as many of the U-tube videos, I took my camera and set it up. There was also the warning on the box of CCI 45 long colt shot capsules not to shoot them in compensated and ported pistols, but this was the sort of challenge that no self respecting redneck could ignore, so I decided to also try a few of them out and see if the video would show pieces of plastic flying out of the ports.
You will notice that every once in a while I disappear out of the view of the camera. What I am doing is checking to see that no one has driven up and is going too enter the range unexpectedly and get an earful of ported pistol and an eyeful of flying plastic debris.
The first two shots are using the Hornady 200 grain factory loads and the last shot is the shot capsule. You will notice I check after the shot to see if the compensator is still on the barrel.
For those of you who may believe that I am actually really extremely wimpy that is not true, I only close my non-sighting eye, not both of them as you think!!!! For those of you who like knives you will notice the CRKT M-16 slides right out of the pocket and opens right up with no fumbling and bumbling around. For the macho guys, this gun is definitely for you. Five rounds will bruise your hand and by ten rounds you will concentrating so hard on not flinching that you will forget to concentrate on the sight picture. The gun is really accurate to shoot because it basically comes straight back at you and if your bone structure is good enough and does not crack and crumble, the bullet will hit what you aim at.
You will also notice that I have shot Rugers a lot and consequently do not have a clue what to do with a S&W double action.
Seriously, this seems to be a very accurate pistol and to be a good gun to keep in the tent for bear attacks at night as long as you already have a lot of hearing loss because the compensator will most likely rupture your eardrums and destroy your night vision at the same time. This is probably not the best CCA gun ever made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p8AjvjRqOU
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07-23-2009, 20:23
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Looks like you could use a set of the training wheels the Russians used to put on their machine guns.
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07-24-2009, 04:18
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Bob
Your doing good for a FOG... The muzzle jump from recoil looked to be only 3-4 inches. Is that because that thing is heaver than an M-249 ??
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07-24-2009, 04:38
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Nice peace.
Not as bbad as he guy shooting the 60 Nitro Express pistol on you tube. Actually made me feel better about my shooting my New Black Hawk the first time. Made me just load .44SPls for a while. Nice looking pistol Bob.
Did it feel a little like a JETO assist for that step back.?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yzI0AIpUUA
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07-24-2009, 05:42
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Good clip
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Originally Posted by Buffalobob
......and to be a good gun to keep in the tent for bear attacks at night as long as you already have a lot of hearing loss because the compensator will most likely rupture your eardrums and destroy your night vision at the same time. ......
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Good clip.
Need to bring it back to the range during some real low light, cloudy day or winter, and move the camera to the right about 2 feet and re-aim at the table.
Should set up a great clip of the muzzle flash from the Hornady 200's. Only got a hint in your clip.
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07-24-2009, 08:20
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Worst I ever shot was a JD Jones special called the .50 Peacemaker, a 750 grain .50 BMG projo loaded into a .460 Weatherby Magnum case, fired from a Thompson-Center Contender.
No previous experience shooting a T-C, I was shooting off a sandbag from the prone and had my hands improperly placed.
First round was a good hit, but the recoil caused the lower recurved part of the Contender trigger guard to impact directly on the first joint of the index finger on my support hand, breaking it.
Of course, JD challenged me to repeat the shot to prove that it wasn't a lucky hit, so I sucked it up, kept my support hand well clear of the guard, and touched off a second one.
I guess JD liked the fact that I kept shooting, so we moved on to some more exotic toys like a suppressed M-4 chambered for 7.62x25 using .308 rifle bullets.
I did not ask to shoot the hand cannon again though.
Hey, anyone here shot an M-79 with the stock cut off and the barrel cut down?
TR
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07-24-2009, 10:19
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Chopped M-79
Back in the early 80"s I had a TS that had served in RVN with SOG. I was the Jr. weapons on the team.
On the range one day TS came to the firing line with a chopped M-79. The stock was chopped off to a pistol grip with the barrel approx. 12 -14 inches.
Of course being a bravo, it sparked my interest. TS said , son you want to bust off a couple of rounds. I said, well hell yea!
I loaded a HE round and held it in a hip firing position. Touched off a round.
Damn hand full. My wrist hurt like hell. TS was standing next to me with another round. Well I wasn't going to act like a wimp so I touched off another. He was then handing me another round. I said, Thanks TS but I know several other team members who want a turn. I looked around and everyone had hauled ass.
My TS said in VN when he fired the M-79 he had never felt any recoil.
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07-25-2009, 09:59
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I liked the finger waggin' at :25
Thanks for sharing!
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07-25-2009, 10:10
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From the looks of it, Harry Callahan would be green with envy! Nice howitzer you have there!
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07-25-2009, 10:59
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THAT IS NOT fingerwagging. For us F.O.G. that is how we re-boot our memory banks.
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07-25-2009, 12:43
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Bob- those Hornadys knocked you back 2 steps... and the first one caused a look of amazement to show on your face... The big question here is - if you are going for the long shot, what deflection and elevation do you use, and a follow on, does that piece of artillery come with aiming stakes?
Nice piece of iron.
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07-26-2009, 08:24
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THAT IS NOT fingerwagging. For us F.O.G. that is how we re-boot our memory banks.
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Got it- like I see the iphone crowd I see spinning their phones.
Thanks for the cultural awareness
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07-26-2009, 22:30
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Originally Posted by bobby efurd
Back in the early 80"s I had a TS that had served in RVN with SOG. I was the Jr. weapons on the team.
On the range one day TS came to the firing line with a chopped M-79. The stock was chopped off to a pistol grip with the barrel approx. 12 -14 inches.
Of course being a bravo, it sparked my interest. TS said , son you want to bust off a couple of rounds. I said, well hell yea!
I loaded a HE round and held it in a hip firing position. Touched off a round.
Damn hand full. My wrist hurt like hell. TS was standing next to me with another round. Well I wasn't going to act like a wimp so I touched off another. He was then handing me another round. I said, Thanks TS but I know several other team members who want a turn. I looked around and everyone had hauled ass.
My TS said in VN when he fired the M-79 he had never felt any recoil.
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09-07-2009, 17:30
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You sir, do not look wimpy at all! That is a serious gun there!
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