August-0 Twenty, Good question and I'll try to keep this kinda brief. All is related so hang in with me. I grew up working for my dad's logging operation based around Mt. Hood Oregon. I started working steel for the oufit at the age of 15, welding, cutting and building big parts for logging machines. Some of these machines weighed over 180,000 lbs and took a hell of a beating. We did all our own repair work. It was by welding that I started learning about differant types of steels. All this time I hunted and fished at every possible chance. I worked what was to be 10 seasons logging, working almost all positions in the woods including high climbing. We were old school loggers. I started buying my own forging tools with money earned logging, started making edged tools for timber frame barn builders and boat buliders. I then realized I could probably make a knife and started on my own. I have no formal schoolin' in this. I wanted to do it so bad it hurt, my genetic defect had surfaced. The edged tool was important to how I grew up, my Grandpa Harsey was a master carpenter. He'd also fought in the trenches of France during WW One. I valued the time I got to spend with him hunting and what he'd shown me about edges for wood working. Somehow I did well enough to get the attention of the late and great knife designer Al Mar (1st Group SF). I did several projects for Al and soon he had me building prototypes from his drawings for manufacturer. This was as close to school as I got. It was Al mar who introduced me to Col. Applegate in 1984 and that began my introduction into the world of military special operations. I never went to any school or class to learn to make knives. I was lucky enough that a few great knifemakers thought I might be worth showing how to do a few things better. I value those men greatly. Thousands of hours have been spent by me shoving steel into belt grinders to figure out how to do this just a bit better. I really enjoy the study of heat treating tool steels and do all of my own heat treat. There's the short version. Bill
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