"The Dubious Appeal of Socialism"

[SF-TX]

The following is a link to a timeless lecture on the appeal of socialism by Edmund Opitz.

http://vimeo.com/4471562?pg=embed&sec=

"Men must be free in society because each person has a destiny beyond society which he can work out only under the conditions of liberty." - Edmund A. Opitz

While I very much appreciate the fact that I have a fellow QP who can reach for the "search" button on the internet, I will wager that 9 out of 10 posts to this thread will be from another QP in stead of a SF student who can't get beyond what "multi-tool should I buy"?

This thread should prove to be very interesting.

Good Job!

WD

p.s., can anyone tell me when "Socialism, (ism in all their forms), were first heard in history, and when specifically, heard in Europe, the American Colonies, and by whom?

QP's, standby, let's see what the "zoomies" have to say.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by wet dog

Good Job!

WD

p.s., can anyone tell me when "Socialism, (ism in all their forms), were first heard in history, and when specifically, heard in Europe, the American Colonies, and by whom?

QP's, standby, let's see what the "zoomies" have to say.

The term or the practice?

William Bradford, the first Governor of Plymouth Colony, wrote that they practiced what we would call socialism in the first year of the colony and that it almost wiped them out. They learned from their mistake!

Pat

let's put the name William Bradford up on the board to be discussed later.
One could call the "experiment" at Plymouth Colony a failure because the community failed to meet a tipping point of "survival", correct? Not enough of a base to provide a store-house for the masses, i.e., taxes. What changed with the second attempt at 'Plymouth Colony'?

As for your question, 'term or the practice', let's go further back in history to find, PRACTICE.

Originally Posted by PSM

The term or the practice?

William Bradford, the first Governor of Plymouth Colony, wrote that they practiced what we would call socialism in the first year of the colony and that it almost wiped them out. They learned from their mistake!

Pat

[PSM]

Originally Posted by wet dog

lWhat changed with the second attempt at 'Plymouth Colony'?

Private property, personal responsibility (single men joined families to help), and, uh, barter.

Pat