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Old 02-25-2009, 20:26   #1
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McDonalds management ate too much CHICKEN!

So some young and without hesitation, brave, McDonald's employee, while at work, goes to the aid of a young woman being assaulted inside the restaurant , gets shot by the assaulter, needs serious hospital emergency care and McDonald's health insurance doesn't want to pay the bill because he wasn't acting within the description of his job.

Click here to read the story: http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=6958997&page=1

McDonald's management has been chewing too many chicken sandwiches. This stuff isn't what made this nation what it used to be.

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Old 02-25-2009, 20:38   #2
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Looks like their insurance company doesn't want to pay it. The manager said he stands by what the guy did and would pay the bills himself.

I think micky dee's needs to get a new insurance company.
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Old 02-25-2009, 20:43   #3
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Looks like their insurance company doesn't want to pay it. The manager said he stands by what the guy did and would pay the bills himself.

I think micky dee's needs to get a new insurance company.
Exactly.

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Old 02-25-2009, 20:44   #4
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Looks like their insurance company doesn't want to pay it. The manager said he stands by what the guy did and would pay the bills himself.

I think micky dee's needs to get a new insurance company.
Kyo,
I'd think they pay enough for their insurance they might have some say in what gets covered or not.
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Old 02-25-2009, 20:45   #5
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I don't know why, as the examples are legion, but the depravity of some insurance companies continues to shock me.
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Old 02-25-2009, 21:34   #6
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Hmm. Bet they'll wish the insurance company will pay instead of having a lawsuit or two on their hands.
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Old 02-25-2009, 21:38   #7
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Old 02-25-2009, 21:44   #8
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I don't know why, as the examples are legion, but the depravity of some insurance companies continues to shock me.
Amen. Add GEICO to that list.

My mother was hit last week by a 16 year old girl with a learns permit. The young lady failed to stop where the on ramp meets the highway and scraped up the entire right side of my mother's sedan. My mother was unable to avoid her by turning to the left lane, of the two lane highway, because there was a tractor trailer beside her. It could have been bad going 45 mph.

The young lady was sober and cooperative with the LEOs - but was ticketed for failure to stop AND violating her learns permit by driving alone.

Now GEICO is filing a counter claim against my mother - for what they have yet to disclose... According to my mom's State Farm Rep. it's not uncommon.

Those snakes give lizards a bad name. But like Sigbia said I don't know why it comes as a surprise; especially from a company with low cost insurance that spends a bundle on advertising.
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Old 02-25-2009, 22:11   #9
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McDonald's is going to regret this one when it makes the conservative AM talk-radio shows...the Rushbo's et al. And as far as HMOs go--medical insurers of peace my anal sphincter.

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Old 02-27-2009, 18:53   #10
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MSM maybe miss leading here. Without the McDonald's name the story is not national news.

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Ray Nosler, the owner and operator of the McDonald's restaurant, released a statement this week saying that "McDonald's supports [Haskett's] claim."
This store is independently owned and operated. As such the insurance may well be independent. I owned a franchised convenience store and my insurance was not corporate involved. I just had to provide proof of insurance at their determined levels. I did search McDonald's franchise web site for insurance information but could not locate anything specific. I did find the statement :

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http://www.mcdonalds.com/corp/franch...emSupport.html

No mention of corporate insurance.

Further research seems to confirm that the insurance company is not tied to corporate McDonalds and that corp does not want to pay the bill for fear of setting a precedent. Right now this fear is greater then the PR payoff.

I've been told and truly believe, no good deed goes unpunished.

Hopefully things somehow will work out for Nigel Haskett.
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Old 02-28-2009, 12:12   #12
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Hmm. Bet they'll wish the insurance company will pay instead of having a lawsuit or two on their hands.
Insurance companies have never been afraid of a lawsuit. But, in this case they might be afraid that their name will be made public (I didin't notice it in the article.). Were I responsible for choosing my company's insurer I'd be interested in their view of my employee's "Good Samaritian" actions. Not being a b(l)eagal I have no clue (IMMHO). But (that never stopped anyone here before ). . . Anyway, the rules governing liability for a GS at the scene of an accident are straight forward (and generally make sense -- do what you think reasonable to help, don't pierce the skin, don't prescribe). It seems a similiar criteria -- don't escalate the violence beyond what a reasonable person would deem reasonable -- is appropriate.
And what of the bad guy? Wasn't he trespassing and committing felony assault on private property? $.02?
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