PT - Bodyweight Only Training

[NousDefionsDoc]

I borrowed up a book called Combat Conditioning by Matt Furey from a friend. I thought it was interesting, so I started doing the exercises and I really like them.

Because I liked them, I did some research and bought "Pushing Yourself to Power" by John Peterson and "The Naked Warrior" by Pavel.

Anybody else doing anything like this?

[Smokin Joe]

Maybe what type of excercises are they?

[stinney]

Although I havent bought the book yet( The Naked Warrior), it is next on my list. I have been reading about Paval and Kettle bell training for a little over a year, and finally started doing the exercises a few months ago. I really like them. They are definitely different than "Western" techniques. Although I have lost 15-18 lbs of muscle , I feel stronger over-all, and my endurance has gone up.

The real proof for me that the Ballistic KB drills were working came last drill weekend, when on a bright and beautiful Sunday morning, the NQP Cadre as a team event, had us fill 6, 104mm Ammo crates w/ rope handles, full of sand and "Transport" them around Camp Blanding. With 14 personnel, the plan was to have 2 men carry each crate, for a specified time period, switching arms and rotating down the formation in such a fashion that 2 personnel would be resting at any given time.

For most of the other guys, this tuned out to be a very difficult event. After an hour or so, several had resorted to hooking their forearms into the ropes and other means of holding on to the crates. By the end of the 2nd hour, two of the younger guys could hardly function. Although I was tired, my grip and forearms never got exhausted. Surprisingly, I was the only one who did not rotate to rest. When my turn came to rest I rotated in to whoever seemed to be hurting the most. When the evilution was complete, I felt as if I had a lot left in the tank.

As I said, for me, that was a little proof positive that Paval's RKC exercises were working, and I intend to purchase the Naked Warrior to include into my routine soon. (Maybe I'll get it for Dads Day)

Also, if anybody's interested, for some good info and articles, drills etc. Check out
http://www.militaryfitness.org/

Stinney

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by stinney
Although I havent bought the book yet( The Naked Warrior), it is next on my list. I have been reading about Paval and Kettle bell training for a little over a year, and finally started doing the exercises a few months ago. I really like them. They are definitely different than "Western" techniques. Although I have lost 15-18 lbs of muscle , I feel stronger over-all, and my endurance has gone up.

The real proof for me that the Ballistic KB drills were working came last drill weekend, when on a bright and beautiful Sunday morning, the NQP Cadre as a team event, had us fill 6, 104mm Ammo crates w/ rope handles, full of sand and "Transport" them around Camp Blanding. With 14 personnel, the plan was to have 2 men carry each crate, for a specified time period, switching arms and rotating down the formation in such a fashion that 2 personnel would be resting at any given time.

For most of the other guys, this tuned out to be a very difficult event. After an hour or so, several had resorted to hooking their forearms into the ropes and other means of holding on to the crates. By the end of the 2nd hour, two of the younger guys could hardly function. Although I was tired, my grip and forearms never got exhausted. Surprisingly, I was the only one who did not rotate to rest. When my turn came to rest I rotated in to whoever seemed to be hurting the most. When the evilution was complete, I felt as if I had a lot left in the tank.

As I said, for me, that was a little proof positive that Paval's RKC exercises were working, and I intend to purchase the Naked Warrior to include into my routine soon. (Maybe I'll get it for Dads Day)

Also, if anybody's interested, for some good info and articles, drills etc. Check out
http://www.militaryfitness.org/

Stinney

Stinney:

I would hope you would do well, as a squid, you should have forearms like Popeye!

Actually, the crates were probably 105mm, not 104mm, as there is no such caliber. Attention to detail, since you had plenty of time to examine the crates.

Good move staying in and helping out the guys who were hurting. That will help you in the SFQC and says something about you as a prospective SF soldier.

Well done.

TR

[mffjm8509]

Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
I borrowed up a book called Combat Conditioning by Matt Furey from a friend. I thought it was interesting, so I started doing the exercises and I really like them.

Because I liked them, I did some research and bought "Pushing Yourself to Power" by John Peterson and "The Naked Warrior" by Pavel.

Anybody else doing anything like this?

I and most of the guys on my team (inadvertantly at first) are using the exercises in Matt Furey's Combat Conditioning daily.

I origionally started the program while deployed and in school with limited gym facilities to use. When I took over an A-team it just seemed natural to use several of these exercises and routines to supplement the PT program, and add variety to the standard Army calasthenic exercises.

For those of you who havent used them, these exercises, when performed correctly, will CRUSH you! I've liftd weights my whole life, and maintain above average strength in the big 3 lifts compared to most guys I've worked with, but this type of PT changed the way I train. When I started I could Bench close to 400# but couldnt complete 25 of Matts "hindu pushups".

I've got one of my guys reviewing Pavels new book to see how we can use that as well.

mp

[mffjm8509]

Originally posted by Smokin Joe
Maybe what type of excercises are they?

They are variations of calesthenics Matt has putt together from various styles of training, ie wrestling & martial arts training.

The "hindu pushup" sometimes called the "divebomber pushup" is the one I spoke of. It is performed by starting in what we normally would consider the pushup rest position with you butt high in the air. You lower your body in line from your head toward your hands then push through your arms, extend up all the way until your back is arched and your belly is pointed to the ground.......then you return your body along the same line.....

The "hindu squat" is a variation of a simple deep squatting exercise, with breathing emphasised to increase your heart rate. You start in a standing position, lower your body deeper than a normal squat, while breathing in and then explode upward thrusting your arms out in front of you while exhaling, then return to the start position. Matt insists that a guy who is in shape can do 500 of these without a break.

He also uses the standard neck bridge that wrestlers use, starting with however long you can hold it, then increasing the time and adding motion to the neck back-forward-left-right to increase neck and ab strength.

These are what he refers to as the "Royal Court" and the base exercises the book starts with.


mp

[stinney]

Originally posted by The Reaper
Stinney:

I would hope you would do well, as a squid, you should have forearms like Popeye!

Actually that's from being married for 14 years...

And Thank you.

Stinney

[Smokin Joe]

Originally posted by mffjm8509
They are variations of calesthenics Matt has putt together from various styles of training, ie wrestling & martial arts training.

The "hindu pushup" sometimes called the "divebomber pushup" is the one I spoke of. It is performed by starting in what we normally would consider the pushup rest position with you butt high in the air. You lower your body in line from your head toward your hands then push through your arms, extend up all the way until your back is arched and your belly is pointed to the ground.......then you return your body along the same line.....

The "hindu squat" is a variation of a simple deep squatting exercise, with breathing emphasised to increase your heart rate. You start in a standing position, lower your body deeper than a normal squat, while breathing in and then explode upward thrusting your arms out in front of you while exhaling, then return to the start position. Matt insists that a guy who is in shape can do 500 of these without a break.

He also uses the standard neck bridge that wrestlers use, starting with however long you can hold it, then increasing the time and adding motion to the neck back-forward-left-right to increase neck and ab strength.

These are what he refers to as the "Royal Court" and the base exercises the book starts with.


mp

Thank you Sir,

I have done the "Hindu Push-up" but its been awhile. Looks like I need to find this book. Google here I come.

[Razor]

The 'new' PT manual the Physical Fitness School was creating (but to date hasn't been accepted and released) emphasizes functional fitness, and contains several good dumbell drills, balance exercises, grass drills and core exercises. The APRT they devised is interesting, but requires equipment that may not be available everywhere.

I think doing IMT fully kitted up makes for a pretty good smoke session, too. To add some realism, make it similar to the EIB IMT lane and add MILES snipers; do it as a split team with the losing split buying the winners their beverage of choice.

[NousDefionsDoc]

If you're going to try it, I would get "Pushing Yourself to Power" by John Peterson over Combat Conditioning. Its got the same stuff pretty much, but the illustrations and explanations are better. Peterson calls everything "Fury" instead of "Hindu" 'cause Fury trained him.

I like this stuff because I'm an old dude and its easier on your joints. MFF is right, if you follow the directions to the letter, it will smoke you and it doesn't take long.

Razor, I hear ya. A PT test that requires equipment will give slackers an out.

I liked certification (the hard ones) for testing the mettle, except for the PT test. Didn't take a whole lot of support - one Team could do another - but it really wrung us out. Especially in Panama. You ruck all night on a land nav then qualify on the range, you're doing some testing. Of course they politicized it to the point where it became a pain in the ass to even think about. Good training if done correctly.

[Smokin Joe]

Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
If you're going to try it, I would get "Pushing Yourself to Power" by John Peterson over Combat Conditioning. Its got the same stuff pretty much, but the illustrations and explanations are better. Peterson calls everything "Fury" instead of "Hindu" 'cause Fury trained him.

I like this stuff because I'm an old dude and its easier on your joints. MFF is right, if you follow the directions to the letter, it will smoke you and it doesn't take long.

Razor, I hear ya. A PT test that requires equipment will give slackers an out.

I liked certification (the hard ones) for testing the mettle, except for the PT test. Didn't take a whole lot of support - one Team could do another - but it really wrung us out. Especially in Panama. You ruck all night on a land nav then qualify on the range, you're doing some testing. Of course they politicized it to the point where it became a pain in the ass to even think about. Good training if done correctly.

Damn I wish I read this earlier. I just ordered this The Naked Warrior

Oh well if I get confused or frustrated I will order Peterson's book. Thank you NDD for the tip they look like good no BS excersises.

Do you think it is along the same lines as Applegate and Fairbain?

ie:
What Applegate and Fairbain are to Marital Arts/ Self Defense
The Naked Warrior is to Working out?

[NousDefionsDoc]

I don't think so. I don't care as much for The Naked Warrior. Basically, this stuff is nothing new. Soldiers, wrestlers, gymnasts, etc., have been doing it for years. Its just an organization of the matieral and some variations. No revolution in physical training here.

I was doing Chris Caracci's workout, but it takes too long. Its a good workout. I've heard Stew Smith and the others are good as well.

Calesthenics are where its at IMO. The gym is great for relieving stress and getting ready for the beach, but the Cals will get you into fighting shape.

I used to work out following the boxing team on Bragg at the old cym up at 18th Leg Corps. MAN, those guys did some Cals.

[NousDefionsDoc]

I don't think so. I don't care as much for The Naked Warrior.

That didn't come out exactly right, did it? LOL

[Solid]

What's the best book for Calesthenics in your opinion, NDD?

Have a good evening,

Solid

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Solid



What's the best book for Calesthenics in your opinion, NDD?

Have a good evening,

Solid

A very heavy one.

TR