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Old 01-30-2009, 10:34   #1
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Local engineer passes PE Exam

Something is a little fishy here...... I just cannot put my finger on it.....


Local engineer passes PE Exam
By Fran Kirschner

Kenneth L. Fry, New Egypt, has passed the rigorous Principles and Practices of Engineering Examination (known in the industry as the PE Exam) and has been approved by the state of Maryland to practice engineering.

In 2008, Fry was awarded national LEED AP accreditation (Leader in Energy and Environmental Design), by the United States Green Building Council (USGBC), certifying that Fry, a partner and senior vice president of BD Engineering, Lakewood, is an expert in green-building design; e.g., reusing existing materials and buildings, reducing water-consumption and waste, reducing energy consumption, and designing sustainable buildings, and developing sites that are environmentally sound and improve environmental air quality, among other requirements.

Fry, a graduate of Westwood High School, Massachusetts, became a Green Beret while in the Marines, having served in “Special Ops” from 1980-1984. He then attended both Penn State University and later Princeton University to study mechanical engineering.

He is a member of ASHRAE, the American Society of Heating, Refrigeration, and Air conditioning Engineers; a member of USGBC, and a member of the Southern New Jersey Business Development Council.

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http://www.app.com/article/20090125/...69/1004/NEWS01
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Old 01-30-2009, 12:07   #2
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Something is a little fishy here...... I just cannot put my finger on it.....


Kenneth L. Fry, New Egypt, . . .

Fry, a graduate of Westwood High School, Massachusetts, became a Green Beret while in the Marines, having served in “Special Ops” from 1980-1984. He then attended both Penn State University and later Princeton University to study mechanical engineering.

He is a member of ASHRAE, the American Society of Heating, Refrigeration, and Air conditioning Engineers; a member of USGBC, and a member of the Southern New Jersey Business Development Council.
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Old 01-30-2009, 12:35   #3
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From the website of National Society of Professional Engineers website here.

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NSPE Code of Ethics for Engineers
Preamble
Engineering is an important and learned profession. As members of this profession, engineers are expected to exhibit the highest standards of honesty and integrity. Engineering has a direct and vital impact on the quality of life for all people. Accordingly, the services provided by engineers require honesty, impartiality, fairness, and equity, and must be dedicated to the protection of the public health, safety, and welfare. Engineers must perform under a standard of professional behavior that requires adherence to the highest principles of ethical conduct.

I. Fundamental Canons
Engineers, in the fulfillment of their professional duties, shall:

1. Hold paramount the safety, health, and welfare of the public.
2. Perform services only in areas of their competence.
3. Issue public statements only in an objective and truthful manner.
4. Act for each employer or client as faithful agents or trustees.
5. Avoid deceptive acts.
6. Conduct themselves honorably, responsibly, ethically, and lawfully so as to enhance the honor, reputation, and usefulness of the profession.
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As members of ASHRAE, we pledge to act with honesty, fairness, courtesy, competence, integrity and respect for others in our conduct.
• Efforts of the Society, its members, and its bodies shall be directed at all times to enhancing the public health, safety and welfare.
• Members and organized bodies of the Society shall be good stewards of the world’s resources including energy, natural, human and financial resources.
• Our products and services shall be offered only in areas where our competence and expertise can satisfy the public need.
• We shall act with care and competence in all activities, using and developing up to date knowledge and skills.
• We shall avoid real or perceived conflicts of interest whenever possible, and disclose them to affected parties when they do exist.
• The confidentiality of business affairs, proprietary information, intellectual property, procedures, and restricted Society discussions and materials shall be respected.
• Each member is expected and encouraged to be committed to the code of ethics of his or her own professional or trade association in their nation and area of work.
• Activities crossing national and cultural boundaries shall respect the ethical codes of the seat of the principal activity.

My two cents on LEED and the U.S. Green Building Council--where there is smoke there are mirrors.

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Old 01-30-2009, 13:00   #4
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Old 01-30-2009, 13:07   #5
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He could lose his license for an integrity violation.
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Old 01-30-2009, 13:40   #6
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Not to give the benefit of the doubt where undeserved, but if he told the reporter that he worked in "special ops" in the USMC (and with the MEU-SOC designation, this doesn't appear all that hard to do quasi-legitimately), the reporter may have made bad assumptions and applied the "Green Beret" title all on his/her own.
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Old 01-30-2009, 13:54   #7
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Sure hope he's not related to Chuck or Bobby.

Lived in Westwood in early 50s as a first grader and I'm I'm glad I didn't catch what this guy got; assuming it wasn't reporter ignorance?
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Old 01-30-2009, 13:56   #8
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I'm with Razor.

The fact that Team Sergeant politely corrected the newspaper on 1/26 and nothing's been changed or acknowledged five days later lends credence to this theory.
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Old 01-30-2009, 15:05   #9
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At best

At best during that time frame he might have served in a Recon Bn or Force Recon Company and gone to Ph II Weapons or Engineers.

I have never know a Marine to be shy about saying he was in a Recon Bn or Force Recon Company. Most are right proud of it and will say so - even in print.

I don't see anything "Recon" related.
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Old 01-30-2009, 15:14   #10
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I found a few more bits & emails:

Kenneth L. Fry
engineers@bd-engineering.com
Senior Vice President
BD Engineering,
1825 Swarthmore Ave
Lakewood, NJ 08701

Asbury Park Press
Business Editor
Dennis Carmody
business@app.com

Frantasy Enterprises, LLC,
Frances Kirschner, owner
fkirschner@optonline.net
www.frantasyenterprises.com

The article was written as a "reader submitted" by Ms Kirschner, so I doubt the paper cares what was in it.

I would think as a professional she would checks her facts??
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Old 01-31-2009, 15:57   #11
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At best during that time frame he might have served in a Recon Bn or Force Recon Company and gone to Ph II Weapons or Engineers.

I have never know a Marine to be shy about saying he was in a Recon Bn or Force Recon Company. Most are right proud of it and will say so - even in print.

I don't see anything "Recon" related.
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I would have to agree with you on this. Bn Recon isn't out of the realm of possibility for a 'first termer' with Force Recon being remotely possible but highly unlikely during an initial single enlistment since they prefer a little experience with a line company at least or preferably select from Bn Recon since they have attended Amphib Recon School and are usually already jump and dive qualified. But, as with anything, it's the need of the Corps at the time. My guesstimation is the reporter quoted him out of context or he is FOS and probably never served at all.
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Old 01-31-2009, 16:57   #12
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His office is a few miles from my house. I'll give him a call and put this to rest.
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Old 01-31-2009, 19:12   #13
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His office is a few miles from my house. I'll give him a call and put this to rest.
I'd like to know also, did he get out of the Marines and join SF? (it happens) I'd also like to know how SF (Green Berets) and Marines get mentioned in the same article, especially when the guy admits to only have served four years....
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Old 02-01-2009, 08:41   #14
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Roger that TS, I'll cover that territory.
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Old 02-02-2009, 08:36   #15
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Just spoke with Mr. Fry, very receptive to my email and call enquiring about his service. Class 4-83, Honor Graduate, will be sending his certificate via email tommorrow to me. I will forward to the admins.
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