12-04-2008, 16:06
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Asset
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Is private sector best suited for anti-piracy?
The piracy question is the most black and white issue in the mostly grey realm of unconventional warfare. Freedom of the seas is good, you can not take what is not your, and the souvernty of no nation is infringed upon. Yet, it seems this is a challenge most suited to the private sector, since the diplomatic difficulties of involving navies are great. Moreover, the ROE of such an operation is prohibitive. And why have a warship follow a merchant ship when the same force protection could be had from placing a four man team on the vessel. I have contacted the few maritime security companies I could find to get further input, but they seem to be stuck in antiquated thinking. There seems to be a real opportunity to develop an organically formed solution to this problem. A chance exists to allow freedom to triumph over oppression on the global state—swiftly and effectively.
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12-04-2008, 16:25
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Quiet Professional
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Vic:
I am not sure that you understand UW.
I would also point out to you that we do not spam messages here across multiple forums.
As to your topic, IMHO, the real cure would be to equip a few Q ships, troll along the Somali coast and blast any attackers out of the water, while providing heavily armed military crews to assist with the security of civilian vessels transiting the area.
No point in taking prisoners, or holding trials.
TR
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12-04-2008, 18:05
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If memory serves me correctly, I seem to recall a lot of worry among ship owners about employing "combat forces" onboard ship. It seems to open up a ton of liability issues, especially should an employed combatant end up taking some lives.
If that is a true concern, that leaves TR's solution.
My $.02.
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12-04-2008, 18:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Flag 1
If memory serves me correctly, I seem to recall a lot of worry among ship owners about employing "combat forces" onboard ship. It seems to open up a ton of liability issues, especially should an employed combatant end up taking some lives.
If that is a true concern, that leaves TR's solution.
My $.02.
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My understanding was that they were afraid to arm crew members, troops or Coasties might be okay.
TR
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12-04-2008, 18:29
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Consigliere
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic
The piracy question is the most black and white issue in the mostly grey realm of unconventional warfare. Freedom of the seas is good, you can not take what is not your, and the souvernty of no nation is infringed upon. Yet, it seems this is a challenge most suited to the private sector, since the diplomatic difficulties of involving navies are great. Moreover, the ROE of such an operation is prohibitive. And why have a warship follow a merchant ship when the same force protection could be had from placing a four man team on the vessel. I have contacted the few maritime security companies I could find to get further input, but they seem to be stuck in antiquated thinking. There seems to be a real opportunity to develop an organically formed solution to this problem. A chance exists to allow freedom to triumph over oppression on the global state—swiftly and effectively.
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Your spelling sucks and so does your analysis. Unless you have a background in naval warfare or maritime law not apparent from your profile, I suggest that you post a lot less here on topics on which you have no expertise.
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