Obama May Not be a US Citizen?

ODA 226 · 10-17-2008, 08:22

Lawsuit demanding a teste copy of his birth certificate filed in court.

www.obamacrimes.com

If this is true, it will turn the Presidential Race on it's head!

Richard · 10-17-2008, 09:05

Richard's $.02

Storm · 10-17-2008, 09:28

I believe there is another thread with this assertion. It is quite the tinfoil hat question, but then again, Obama has tied up both lawsuits that have been brought. Apparently, taking legal action to tie up these lawsuits until after the election is much easier than providing a birth certificate to a neutral third-party?

longrange1947 · 10-17-2008, 12:04

And that is what does not make sense.

Rogue · 10-17-2008, 12:18

The TRUTH is always answered simply.....

If he were truly a natural born citizen, then a truthful direct answer would be simple.............

His feet dragging speaks volumes......

Richard · 10-17-2008, 12:23

My Dad was born in Oklahoma and the doctor wasn't able to register his birth until several weeks after the fact. My grandmother recorded his birthdate in the family bible which contains the birthdates of all his siblings. After his father's death when he was five, the family moved back to Texas where my grandmother remarried and the family moved to California. My father never had a birth certificate, served in the PTO in the Navy in WW2, and always celebrated his birthday as recorded in the family bible, his school and college records, his 'official' military records, his SSA records, etc.

Several years after I retired and moved to Texas, my father came to visit. We took a 'road trip' to visit some of our Texas relatives and the town of his birthplace--Wewoka--and then on to Oklahoma City where we obtained an 'official copy' of his birth certificate as registered by the doctor; the date of birth was 8 days later than the date my grandmother had written in the bible.

My father is deceased and the date of birth as posted on his death certificate is the one claimed by my grandmother and taken from my father's SSA files, and is not the one from his 'official' birth certificate from Oklahoma.

Makes me wonder what foofarah the e-snoops and political tin hats would come up with on him if he was the one running for office today.

Richard's $.02

dividebyzero · 10-18-2008, 18:47

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Originally Posted by Richard

My Dad was born in Oklahoma and the doctor wasn't able to register his birth until several weeks after the fact. My grandmother recorded his birthdate in the family bible which contains the birthdates of all his siblings. After his father's death when he was five, the family moved back to Texas where my grandmother remarried and the family moved to California. My father never had a birth certificate, served in the PTO in the Navy in WW2, and always celebrated his birthday as recorded in the family bible, his school and college records, his 'official' military records, his SSA records, etc.

Several years after I retired and moved to Texas, my father came to visit. We took a 'road trip' to visit some of our Texas relatives and the town of his birthplace--Wewoka--and then on to Oklahoma City where we obtained an 'official copy' of his birth certificate as registered by the doctor; the date of birth was 8 days later than the date my grandmother had written in the bible.

My father is deceased and the date of birth as posted on his death certificate is the one claimed by my grandmother and taken from my father's SSA files, and is not the one from his 'official' birth certificate from Oklahoma.

Makes me wonder what foofarah the e-snoops and political tin hats would come up with on him if he was the one running for office today.

Richard's $.02

I feel like this post is extremely worthy of note. Without tipping my hand as to who I'm planning on voting for, it certainly makes me wish that BOTH parties would have a more substantive discussion of the issues facing this country rather than continuing to employ personal attacks that at best cheapen political discourse and at worst absolutely destroy it.

**Box** · 10-18-2008, 18:55

what are the issues?

dividebyzero · 10-18-2008, 19:12

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Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

what are the issues?

A worldwide financial crisis, how best to utilize American power, education, etc? I hear an awful lot of platitudes and rhetoric from each candidate in the debates, but very little substantial information.

**Box** · 10-18-2008, 19:19

Both candidates have been asked questions about all of those issues...

They both prefer to dance around an honest answer, so without a straight answer we may as well entertain ourselves with more entertaining issues like John McCains mavericky VP, Obamas sleeper cell connections with domestic terrorists, Joe Biden's oratory skills or McCains poor grades at the academy or even why Coca-Cola took "new coke" off the market.

...and since hanging chads seem to be a bigger voter fraud issue than the straight arrow practices of ACORN I am not really sure what else we should discuss.

...how 'bout them Phillies?

**Bill Harsey** · 10-18-2008, 19:24

Perhaps this has already been discussed here and NO I did not try and use the search function first but speaking of documentation relating to the job applied for...

...after birth certificates how would he do getting a security clearance especially after admitting who he has kept company with?

nmap · 10-18-2008, 19:35

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Originally Posted by dividebyzero

A worldwide financial crisis, how best to utilize American power, education, etc? I hear an awful lot of platitudes and rhetoric from each candidate in the debates, but very little substantial information.

As I recall, Chairman Bernanke required a quick briefing to understand the rudiments of CDOs. They, along with other derivatives, lie at the heart of the financial problem. Do the candidates have a deep understanding of the issue? Do the voters? If not, how can worthwhile dialog be pursued?

How best to utilize American power? Perhaps this includes military power. Are the voters prepared to educate themselves in depth on the issues?

The same applies to education. We speak of standards and accountability; but within the field of education, current research suggests underlying problems with existing measures. Is the public aware of the literature? Do the voters understand (and have access to) current research?

So...what substantive information do we expect from the candidates? And, with a few exceptions duly noted, who would understand it, even if they did provide it?

JJ_BPK · 10-19-2008, 06:43

I think the simplicity of the quest & answer:

Q: show us your birth certificate
A: here is the original

Begs to ask,, why spend $$$$$ on lawyers to suppress,,

when the answer can be FREE???

This needs watching,, but at arms length.

Personally,, I keep my tin foil for the BBQ,, don't want to waste it..

alright4u · 10-19-2008, 07:36

I propose all seeking public office have to pass a NAC plus a full BI and be subjected to the suitability evaluation board for any alleged misconduct.

jw74 · 10-25-2008, 18:52

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081025/D941NCJG0.html

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit challenging Barack Obama's qualifications to be president.

U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick on Friday night rejected the suit by attorney Philip J. Berg, who alleged that Obama was not a U.S. citizen and therefore ineligible for the presidency. Berg claimed that Obama is either a citizen of his father's native Kenya or became a citizen of Indonesia after he moved there as a boy.

Obama was born in Hawaii to an American mother and a Kenyan father. His parents divorced and his mother married an Indonesian man.

Internet-fueled conspiracy theories question whether Obama is a "natural-born citizen" as required by the Constitution for a presidential candidate and whether he lost his citizenship while living abroad.

Surrick ruled that Berg lacked standing to bring the case, saying any harm from an allegedly ineligible candidate was "too vague and its effects too attenuated to confer standing on any and all voters."