10-15-2008, 16:48
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BHO "Hope, Change, Future"
I've come to realize exactly what BHO means by this campaign slogan--his hope is to get his hand on all the change in my pocket in the future. 
Have y'all seen the attached sign yet? 
Richard's $.02 
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10-15-2008, 18:48
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Originally Posted by Richard
I've come to realize exactly what BHO means by this campaign slogan--his hope is to get his hand on all the change in my pocket in the future.
Have y'all seen the attached sign yet?
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BHO...everything an American should not be.
IMHO.
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10-15-2008, 19:23
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I hope the way Obama's getting spanked in the debate doesn't change in the future.
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10-15-2008, 19:32
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I hope the way Obama's getting spanked in the debate doesn't change in the future.
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Seems to have a big smirk when McCain is talking.
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10-15-2008, 19:43
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Seems to have a big smirk when McCain is talking.
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And a lot of sweat! JMcC is not backing off and just doggedly and calmly reciting fact after countering fact. I enjoyed the way he went after BHO and the Ayers/ACORN/$$ issues. 
Bob Schieffer is asking good, pointed questions, too. 
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10-15-2008, 19:46
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I wish McCain would just call BHO underlying socialist agendas out. I feel like McCain's statements about Joe the Plumber/ redistribution of wealth is just dancing around the issue.
McCain's energy dependence sh peel was spot on!
Physical Fitness programs for America's youth! I am so glad McCain hit on that!
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10-15-2008, 20:06
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"If you wanted to run against Bush, then you should have run four years ago."
I was jumping off the sofa on that one yelling, "NOW THAT is waht I am talking about!" Obama still hasn't recovered from that sting. McCain is really good when he lets the dogs out.
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10-15-2008, 20:26
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I have to admit, on the Joe the plumber thing, i'm kinda at a loss. I think Ranger School has left me way out of the loop on all of the political issues.
The way I see it, Obama wants Joe to pay more taxes once he is making over the constantly mentioned 250k. If he isn't making over this as a result of starting his own plumbing business then he wouldn't pay more. If he is, then I agree that just like larger businesses, he can afford to pay more.
Fix me if I'm wrong. Ha.
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10-15-2008, 20:29
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The point isn't that he can afford, but that government shouldn't take and give your money based on their interests like Russia does. Otherwise, all the people making over 250,000 can work less or stop at 250,000 which will slow, not increase growth.
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10-15-2008, 20:40
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If he isn't making over this as a result of starting his own plumbing business then he wouldn't pay more. If he is, then I agree that just like larger businesses, he can afford to pay more.
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The money taken through taxation will fund transfer payments (welfare by other names).
The same money, if not taken through taxation, can be used to reinvest in the business, thus fueling growth and increasing employment. Alternatively, the money can be used for consumption, thus encouraging growth among other businesses.
Which is the more constructive use of the money?
Which is more in accordance with the principles of economic freedom and capitalism?
Which is more in accordance with socialism?
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10-15-2008, 20:42
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Ok, I agree with and see the logic in both of these last posts, but hasn't always also been true that the more you make the higher the tax bracket you are in? I mean that just makes sense right?
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10-15-2008, 20:43
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damn, even foxnews talking heads are giving BHO a big plug for his performance in the debate... and there I was thinking that BHO was getting schooled by McCain. 
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10-15-2008, 20:43
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"If you wanted to run against Bush, then you should have run four years ago."
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One of my favorite lines of the evening...BAM!
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10-15-2008, 20:52
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10-15-2008, 20:59
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damn, even foxnews talking heads are giving BHO a big plug for his performance in the debate... and there I was thinking that BHO was getting schooled by McCain.
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I think the talking heads on Fox and the other networks are such idiots that even though McCain took it to Obama, they can't see it or say if they did. The only thing McCain could have said differently is that Obama is a liar, which he implied with his comments about his eloquence.
Let's face it, if we as voters can't figure out that Obama is a liar and a socialistic piece of Sh##, then we will get the President we deserve. Obama is a BS artist.
I wish McCain had said, regardless that these other gentlemen were on the board, when do you Mr. Obama say,"I will not be on a board of any kind with a terrorist!". When do you say that sir? Is terrorism of any kind a nuance where 30 years diminishes the crime. How can that POS be a college professor?
We are living in a time of morons. If there was a tax credit for stupidy, there would be a lot less foreclosures.
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