10-06-2008, 16:58
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Damn, I knew it, thats not what the MFF committee told us!!! No one told us our lungs might collapse!!!! 
Sad part is one million readers will be thinking that is true....
"They fell at speeds reaching 140mph, hurtling past the highest ridges of the snow-laden Himalayas, before each released a parachute, made three times the size of a normal canopy to cope with the thin air. The jumpers wore oxygen masks to prevent their lungs from collapsing as they fell. Wearing neoprene underwear was compulsory — to prevent them from being frozen to death."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4886596.ece
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10-06-2008, 17:09
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Damn, I knew it, thats not what the MFF committee told us!!! No one told us our lungs might collapse!!!! 
Sad part is one million readers will be thinking that is true....
"They fell at speeds reaching 140mph, hurtling past the highest ridges of the snow-laden Himalayas, before each released a parachute, made three times the size of a normal canopy to cope with the thin air. The jumpers wore oxygen masks to prevent their lungs from collapsing as they fell. Wearing neoprene underwear was compulsory — to prevent them from being frozen to death."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4886596.ece
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Perhaps a bit higher and they might have exploded!
So much for the credibility of the press.
Still in all, a pricey nonmilitary jump that made a record of sorts; with 30 more to follow.
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10-06-2008, 19:16
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Canopy three times normal size = ?
No square footage (or suspended weight) given.
I'm guessing a tandem rig.
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10-06-2008, 19:34
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Tandem chut?
I wonder what size chut the tandem jumpers were using.
Couple of first timers were on the list to jump.
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10-06-2008, 20:17
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...an MC4 is three times the size of a normal sized rig.
My sport rig has a 107 main and an MC-4 has a 370.
Still a cool jump though... I would have definitely bought a lift ticket for the jump. I am sure there will be an article in an upcoming issue of parachutist magazine.
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10-07-2008, 08:01
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"The jumpers wore oxygen masks to prevent their lungs from collapsing as they fell."
Any non-SF'ers want to guest why the oxygen?
And for the record it has nothing to do with preventing their lungs from collapsing as they fell...... 
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10-07-2008, 08:07
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Being 29,000 ft+ in the air, you need oxygen to keep from passing out or blacking out. The body needs oxygen, and at the altitude, the oxygen levels are much less than what they are at sea level, hence the need of oxygen.
Thats what I think, from knowledge I gained from movies and tv shows.
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10-07-2008, 08:10
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Being 29,000 ft+ in the air, you need oxygen to keep from passing out or blacking out. The body needs oxygen, and at the altitude, the oxygen levels are much less than what they are at sea level, hence the need of oxygen.
Thats what I think, from knowledge I gained from movies and tv shows. 
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That's one reason.... there's another very important reason and why the oxygen we breath is about 99% pure.
And by the way the oxygen is the same mix as it is at sea level..... You're almost there....
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10-07-2008, 08:12
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Being 29,000 ft+ in the air, you need oxygen to keep from passing out or blacking out. The body needs oxygen, and at the altitude, the oxygen levels are much less than what they are at sea level, hence the need of oxygen.
Thats what I think, from knowledge I gained from movies and tv shows. 
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Young man I think that every QP that has made a comment is HALO qualified and we all have been making statements because of the uninformed and stupid writing of the news reporter. Read more......movies and TV are 90% bull. If you wish to learn you do it via reading and interaction with people that are educated in a specific area that you are studying.
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10-07-2008, 08:17
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That's one reason.... there's another very important reason and why the oxygen we breath is about 99% pure.
And by the way the oxygen is the same mix as it is at sea level..... You're almost there....
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Like with Scuba diving, only in reverse, the Nitrogen levels in your body would increase, without breathing in more O2 at a higher altitude.
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10-07-2008, 08:21
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Young man I think that every QP that has made a comment is HALO qualified and we all have been making statements because of the uninformed and stupid writing of the news reporter. Read more......movies and TV are 90% bull. If you wish to learn you do it via reading and interaction with people that are educated in a specific area that you are studying.
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Great, now he’s going to come back with a 10 page dissertation on O2 in our atmosphere and how it affects our physiology.
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10-07-2008, 08:25
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Like with Scuba diving, only in reverse, the Nitrogen levels in your body would increase, without breathing in more O2 at a higher altitude.

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I said the O2 mix was the same at altitude, what's the difference?
"Nitrogen levels in your body would increase" not necessarily something else happens...like scuba diving....
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10-07-2008, 08:39
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Would it be because of the combination of lack of oxygen and cold air?
I seem to remember hearing someone talk about the cold temperture causing oxygen not to flow correctly...
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10-07-2008, 08:41
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Would it be because of the combination of lack of oxygen and cold air?
I seem to remember hearing someone talk about the cold temperture causing oxygen not to flow correctly...
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Nope, not even close.
Now I've said it three times the O2 mix is the same at 30,000 feet as it is at zero feet, what's the difference?
Next contestant?
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