26 Sept. Presidential Debate Discussion

charlietwo · 09-26-2008, 20:57

My highlight of the evening so far, "Uh, I have a bracelet too." If you saw it, you'll know what I'm talking about. Not sure why, but this made me laugh out loud

Any thoughts about the debate itself? On the surface, Obama seemed tired, while McCain seemed rather vibrant. I'm not sure if this will change anyone's mind or convince the "uncertains" to vote either way.

Thoughts?

**Razor** · 09-26-2008, 21:05

Actually, I thought the most embarassing (for BHO) part was his next statement--"Its for SGT...uh...um...uh...". Wearing it must mean quite a bit to him.

abc_123 · 09-26-2008, 21:05

Not sure if I heard any major game-changing sound bites. I did think that BHO did do better than abysmal which is better than expectations. McCain did better in the second half.. when the shouting is over, I think it's going to be a wash.

You think Obabma looked tired? I thought he looked tanned. I think he's been hitting the booth.

PSM · 09-26-2008, 21:12

My favorite Obama line was: "Back in April I warned the administration that you had Russian peacekeepers in Georgian territory."

What's the annual budget of the CIA, DIA, NSA, ETC? We should dump them and hire the BHO.

Pat

Puertoland · 09-26-2008, 21:27

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Originally Posted by Razor

Actually, I thought the most embarassing (for BHO) part was his next statement--"Its for SGT...uh...um...uh...". Wearing it must mean quite a bit to him.

Couldn't help but feel when he mentioned the bracelet, it was a desperate attempt to say "I care about dead soldiers too.", and Obama not being able to remember the SGT's name was just down right awful. Mccain on the other hand could recollect the name quickly, and clearly.

Really felt with Mccain on speaking about not letting our people die in vein.

However I think Obama 'presented' a better debate with looking directly at Mccain, and some of his barbs...however much that counts. Great debate however, could not help but feel I was going to watch a Boxing match.

jamber97 · 09-26-2008, 21:35

CNN had a cool analyst score card graphic and graph for the Republican,Democratic and Independent response.

Seemed as though Obama was on the defensive more than offense. He also said he agreed with John to many times and although MCcain did agree with Obama, he didn't return the favor of saying he agreed with him.

MCCain made interesting statements about his support of veterans. I read that he's rated at 20% by the Veterans of America on his voting record as it relates to veterans. I was curious how the veterans here view his support of veterans?

I don't like hearing the stories of their interactions with voters, it comes across as being disingenuous.

Overall I think MCcain didn't hurt himself and that Obama improved his position. I think it will be reflected in future polls.

Warrior-Mentor · 09-26-2008, 21:53

Drudgereport.com is running a poll....so you can vote on who you thought won.

Current total has McCain up around 70% saying he won....

...and a snarky comment that this thread should be "Presidential"

Phantasos · 09-26-2008, 22:02

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Originally Posted by abc_123

You think Obabma looked tired? I thought he looked tanned. I think he's been hitting the booth.

I swear he's been getting darker each month since the campaign has taken center stage, not to mention I think he smokes? and I noticed that his lips aren't as purple as they used to be....

Overall I think Mccain did very well, words like "naive" and "inexperience" worked in his favor...

charlietwo · 09-26-2008, 22:08

I was definitely pleased to see McCain throwing some punches. I'm not sure it will make much of a difference to the fabled "uncertains", but Obama looked on edge. I suppose I haven't seen enough of him to be an expert on his body language, but I've developed enough of a sense to know when someone is sweating.

I don't foresee much of a change in the polls from this... not enough heavy blows, although McCain was definitely on the offensive. I predict this will wear on Obama, as he's obviously outmatched when it comes to experience.

I did enjoy the part where Obama stated that he was more equipped to handle the decisions of how to employ and deploy the United States military. Couldn't help but laugh out loud at that one

PS- I agree! Change this thread to "Presidential". I swear I've only had a few drinks, and I can actually spell most words in the English language!

afchic · 09-26-2008, 22:09

First of all let me say that the debate did not in any way change who I am voting for. With that being said I tried to watch it as someone who was undecided would. I expected alot more uummm and aahhhs from Obama, so I think he did well on presentation.
I think he was on the defensive much more than McCain. I think McCain scored points because he actually stated what some of the positions in his economic plan would have to be changed due to the current economic crisis. Obama never answered the question.
Overall I think they both did well, and would call it a tie. With that being said, if McCain can do as well at the economic debate as Obama did tonight on Foreign Policy I think it will go a long way to help him.
I am really looking forward to the town hall debate.

charlietwo · 09-26-2008, 22:15

afchic- Is there going to be a town hall debate? That will be wonderful. I don't see Obama doing well in that setting. He doesn't have the spirit of truth on his side... how could anyone win in that setting?

afchic · 09-26-2008, 22:42

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Originally Posted by charlietwo

afchic- Is there going to be a town hall debate? That will be wonderful. I don't see Obama doing well in that setting. He doesn't have the spirit of truth on his side... how could anyone win in that setting?

I believe the second debate is a town hall debate, although I am not sure of the date, and the third and final debate is in the same format as tonight with the topic being the economy.

Paslode · 09-27-2008, 06:32

Based upon the little I watched, I would say it was about even. McCain had some some good points, but he missed oppourtunities for the kill. Obama is slick, he is a smooth salesmen. He has an answer for everything and he is good at making take your eye off that shit he just stepped in while tracking it through your house.

The one area that Obama blew IMO, was his I am going lower the taxes on the middle class, which reminded me of Bush #1 spouting 'Read My Lips, NO New Taxes"......which Bush couldn't do and neither can Bambi. And if the MSM weren't in the tank they might mention that.

Obama is a charmer, great smile, lots of energy and he is easy to watch him speak. Mac is a good guy, but his stage presence is awful and I think that is going to be a big problem.

Red Flag 1 · 09-27-2008, 06:38

Hearing BHO speak in public, any forum, is like listnening to a motor try to run with a badly clogged fuel filter.

If I remember correctly, a BHO response to his limited forigen policy experience, was to bring up his wonderful choice for a running mate. Sen. Biden had all the experience needed was the gist.

RF 1

bravo22b · 09-27-2008, 06:56

They both said "Iranian Republican Guard", which, unless I'm mistaken, is not the correct name for the IRGC. McCain said it first, and I cringed, but Obama said it next in his follow up, so I guess it's a wash.

I though it was a tie. I didn't think either one did particularly well, and it was painful to watch both of them avoid direct answers to simple questions. I thought McCain could have done much better if he could have employed some "straight talk" instead of re-directing his answers to emphasize his talking points.

I also thought it was very telling when Obama couldn't come up with the name of the sergeant on his bracelet.