06-26-2008, 16:07
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Recent robbery in Phoenix
Here is a story of a recent robbery in Phoenix, It barely made local news.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,372202,00.html
Another example of our "sanctuary city" in action.
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06-27-2008, 10:43
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holy crap, break out the guns fellas, poncho villa lives. better up-arm the PD
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06-27-2008, 13:23
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holy crap, break out the guns fellas, poncho villa lives. better up-arm the PD
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Ain't going to happen, the Phoenix PD is only armed with pistols and one in twenty have access to a shotgun......
I'm sure the good and extremely liberal Phoenix PD Chief knows best.  (Only Phoenix SWAT carry assault rifles. )
I've no doubt that a few "more" Phoenix Police Officers will have to executed by illegal mexican aliens before they will address the firepower issue.
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06-27-2008, 13:30
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
Ain't going to happen, the Phoenix PD is only armed with pistols and one in twenty have access to a shotgun......
I'm sure the good and extremely liberal Phoenix PD Chief knows best.  (Only Phoenix SWAT carry assault rifles. )
I've no doubt that a few "more" Phoenix Police Officers will have to executed by illegal mexican aliens before they will address the firepower issue.
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I heard a PPD spokesman on the radio yesterday stating that AR-15's would be made available to patrol officers. He stated a number, which I cannot remember, and told the head of PLEA (the officers' union - who was on the same radio program at the time) that he might want to check into it. The head of PLEA was complaining about the entire way this incident has been handled/reported by PPD. We shall see.
I find it interesting that "Chief" Harris actually retired a year or so ago and the city created some "Homeland Security" type office for him to take, but he is still referred to as "Chief".
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06-27-2008, 14:49
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I heard a PPD spokesman on the radio yesterday stating that AR-15's would be made available to patrol officers. He stated a number, which I cannot remember, and told the head of PLEA (the officers' union - who was on the same radio program at the time) that he might want to check into it. The head of PLEA was complaining about the entire way this incident has been handled/reported by PPD. We shall see.
I find it interesting that "Chief" Harris actually retired a year or so ago and the city created some "Homeland Security" type office for him to take, but he is still referred to as "Chief".
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What the papers didn't write that it was a couple of SWAT cops that actually heard the shots while serving a high risk warrant in the area and responded. Had the bad guys not run out of ammo and regular PD responded we might have had a some dead LEO's today. Having an assault rifle in the trunk and not needing it is much better than not having one and running into bad guys with body armor and evil intent.
And another thing, it was not home invasion, this was an ordered assassination or hit. These bad guys "ported" the windows and fired over 50 rounds into the house and intended target. Phoenix PD, Phoenix mayor and the Phoenix media does not want to scare people and tell you there's a new drug war going on and its battle ground is Phoenix.
Fatal Arizona Home Invasion Sparks Fears of Mexican Military Involvement
Thursday, June 26, 2008
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An Arizona home invasion allegedly orchestrated by Mexican citizens wearing tactical gear sparked fears that members of the Mexican military were involved in a wave of violent crime in the Phoenix area, according to local reports.
Police followed the sound of gunshots early Monday morning to the home of 30-year-old Andrew Williams, whose bullet-riddled body was found inside, the Arizona Republic reported. Officers then pursued a report of a suspicious Chevrolet Tahoe in the vehicle and arrested three suspects, all wearing body armor and carrying assault-style rifles.
A statement by one of the suspects that he had received prior military training fueled speculation into the fact that they were members of the Mexican military. Phoenix police said Wednesday that none of them were active members.
However, in a radio interview this week, Phoenix Law Enforcement Association President Mark Spencer said the men involved were hired by drug cartels to carry out home invasions and assassinations.
Spencer added that one of the suspects said they were prepared to ambush officers, but ran out of ammunition.
Cops believe three more suspects are still at large.
"We have seen an increasing amount of these type of violent crimes in the past five months," Phoenix Police Sgt. Joel Tranter told the Arizona Republic. "We want the public to realize that these types of crimes will not be tolerated in Phoenix."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,372202,00.html
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06-27-2008, 15:19
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And another thing, it was not home invasion, this was an ordered assassination or hit. These bad guys "ported" the windows and fired over 50 rounds into the house and intended target.
Phoenix PD, Phoenix mayor and the Phoenix media does not want to scare people and tell you there's a new drug war going on and its battle ground is Phoenix.
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TS, Sir,
Have family in the Phoenix Area, and have sent them a copy of this. It is unbelieveable to me that the "mayor" is such a politically correct coward, that he would risk lives of citizens...
In this same vein, I also heard "a poll" today that ranked Our Nations #1 city for kidnapping as being Phoenix, as related to the mexican mafia...
Ya'll be safe out there!!!
Holly
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06-27-2008, 21:45
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06-27-2008, 22:57
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Wear pistol = "check"
Have long gun in vehicle = "check"
I'm good and cannot wait for the move....
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06-27-2008, 23:36
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Phoenix PD does issue AR-15's to patrol officers, but it is limited. Also, shotguns are issued to one officer per squad, and officers are authorized to purchase approved shotguns. Just today I noticed several long guns out on the street on a scene.
Officers were VERY fortunate these guys went black on ammo.
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06-28-2008, 03:04
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This one actually made the news. There are several killings, shootings, robberies ect.. everyday that don't. The local government here wants to hide the fact that violent crime is on the rise and that the illegal population in Phoenix is out of control and becoming more violent. Like TS said, it won't be until another Officer gets shot or killed that anything changes.
Derek
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06-28-2008, 04:58
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
Ain't going to happen, the Phoenix PD is only armed with pistols and one in twenty have access to a shotgun......
I'm sure the good and extremely liberal Phoenix PD Chief knows best.  (Only Phoenix SWAT carry assault rifles. )
I've no doubt that a few "more" Phoenix Police Officers will have to executed by illegal mexican aliens before they will address the firepower issue.
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Not sure if the Phoenix Police Officers would like the idea of their firepower or in this case lack of to be public knowledge.
And I agree that it'll be after a few more deaths in the PPD that didn't need to happen something MIGHT change.
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06-28-2008, 08:25
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Phoenix PD does issue AR-15's to patrol officers, but it is limited.
Officers were VERY fortunate these guys went black on ammo.
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My guess would be "limited" to many of the leadership.....(I will find out  )
The officers were fortunate these guys were complete idiots.
Went "black on ammo" you learn that from thunder ranch or gunsite?
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06-28-2008, 11:48
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
My guess would be "limited" to many of the leadership.....(I will find out  )
The officers were fortunate these guys were complete idiots.
Went "black on ammo" you learn that from thunder ranch or gunsite?
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TS, Sir,
IMVHO, I can only hope that the PPD are provided with ALL the firepower and ammo They need!
Am very saddened to hear that the PPD's victory was b/c the yahoos ran outta ammo.
Here is to hoping that the Phoenix Mayor/ city leaders, will step up and get a clue! They need to provide ANYTHING the PD says it wants/needs...IMHO.
Holly
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06-28-2008, 12:56
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In this case I don't think PD wouldn't have been out-gunned due to the fact that Special Assignments Unit (SWAT) Officers were there from the beginning. When this activity increases odds are that won't always be the case and Patrol Officers with less equipment and training will be dealing with it. This was a really good job by the Officers that initially recognized the potential ambush and dealt with it accordingly.
Here's a link to local talk radio. Podcast of an interview with department officials is at the bottom of the story.
http://ktar.net/blogs/dankarlo/category/podcasts/
Derek
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06-28-2008, 14:56
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The plot thickens......
The Phoenix PD "leadership" is in fact attempting to hide the true nature of this crime and the involvment of the mexican military..... and I only thought the mexican PD was this corrupt.
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PPD Reports Mexican Military in Phoenix
On Monday June 23 at 0225 hours a home invasion/homicide occurred in the 8300 block of W. Cypress St in the Maryvale precinct. Your Association was first advised of this incident late afternoon of the same day. This was not a 'typical' home invasion scenario.
Your Association is seriously concerned when a crime of this magnitude is committed and the response of Phoenix Police Department upper level managers is to remain silent by presenting this incident as just another "home invasion". Click on the links to the right to read the department's own Special Duty Report, A PPD Commanders response to the duty report, and the Department's Patrol Division Activity Log.
http://www.azplea.com/content.php?info_id=447
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