06-17-2008, 18:13
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"Precision Sniper Rifle" SOCOM Solicitation
??? I wonder who came up with that term?
Solicitation Number:
H92222-09-PSR Notice Type:
Sources Sought
Synopsis:
Added: Jun 17, 2008 3:01 pm
Precision Sniper Rifle (PSR)
Issue date – 17 June 2008 Closing date – 13 August 2008
MARKET SURVEY – SOURCES SOUGHT SYNOPSIS: The Government is issuing this sources-sought announcement as part of a market research effort to support a requirement for a Precision Sniper Rifle (PSR). All interested sources are encouraged to submit company and product literature, references, and other pertinent information for the Government’s consideration. The Government is interested in analyzing and testing sniper weapon systems to possibly replace the currently fielded Bolt Action SOF Sniper Systems (MK 13, M40, M24).
More.... https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportun...=core&_cview=0
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06-17-2008, 18:30
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Uhhhh, with the SCAR being the panacea of long guns, isnt the SCAR Heavy Long Barrel supposed to fill this requirement? 
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06-17-2008, 18:49
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Its just market research, allowing anyone with a "Good idea" to present it. It also probably checks someones block on that new convoluted personel system that requires you to have quantifiable goals that you and your rater set up at the beginning of the rating period.
This MS/SS is something that someone can point to as "Proof" that they are doing their job.
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06-17-2008, 19:03
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The same idiot that came up with dangerous explosive.
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06-17-2008, 19:08
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The same idiot that came up with dangerous explosive.
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LMAO.... 
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06-17-2008, 19:10
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Originally Posted by Jack Moroney
The same idiot that came up with dangerous explosive.
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So you are saying fire is hot?
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06-17-2008, 19:31
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Uhhhh, with the SCAR being the panacea of long guns, isnt the SCAR Heavy Long Barrel supposed to fill this requirement? |
Negative, the SASS was.
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06-17-2008, 20:17
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Yea right, next your going to tell me water is wet and your cant breath it 
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06-17-2008, 20:48
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The PSR is a requirement for a sniper rifle that will accurately engage targets to 2000 meters (dream) 1400 to 1600 (more realistic). This is part of the original program for a .338 Lapua or similar bolt weapon system. The weapon is to actually be able to reach our and touch someone at ranges beyond the 300 Win Mag. This is with a weapon that can actually be carried into combat and not a Ma Duece wannabe that needs to be broken down.
I have been working on this, essentially since the mid 80s. Oh yes, the army moves in a very fast manner. They come up with more crap to slow down the process then I have ever seen. The latest ORD is about 6 to 7 years old, yes years old. The Navy keeps changing it and Crane keeps screwing it, and they hold meeting after meeting over it. Nothing much happens but more after action and trip reports.
The Navy and the Air Force can procure billion dollar systems and the Army sits on its arse trying to procure a system that is barely in the million dollar range if everyone got a system.
Sorry guys, a very raw spot for me. We came the closest two years ago and Crane and others screwed it up with more meetings and no real outcome other than give them another 300 Win Mag and we may update it so Crane gets more business and money. The weapon is crap, shoots at 1.5 moa and the scope sucks. Not a good way to do business.
End of rant for now. 
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06-17-2008, 21:27
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06-18-2008, 08:41
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The PSR is a requirement for a sniper rifle that will accurately engage targets to 2000 meters (dream) 1400 to 1600 (more realistic).
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We had 4 of these per platoon back in the 1990s, with high power optical and thermal sights, variable effects ammo, 200 rounds per minute ROF and a 300 round magazine. 
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06-18-2008, 09:39
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We had 4 of these per platoon back in the 1990s, with high power optical and thermal sights, variable effects ammo, 200 rounds per minute ROF and a 300 round magazine. |
Bradley?
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06-18-2008, 13:45
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We had 4 of these per platoon back in the 1990s, with high power optical and thermal sights, variable effects ammo, 200 rounds per minute ROF and a 300 round magazine. |
Yes but were they single man portable? 
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06-18-2008, 13:51
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Yup...usually by an 11B PFC, up to 35mph. 
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06-18-2008, 18:06
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OK Rick, say over and over again, " I will not take a mouth full of coffee while reading PS.com, I will not take a mouth full of coffee while reading PS.com."
Thanks Razor, I needed that spray of coffee.
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