06-11-2008, 11:45
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What the h#$% is wrong with people?
A bad accident happened this morning on the way to work....the police nor the EMS had arrived by the time I got up to the overturned car (it had obviously just happened). There were assholes actually beeping at each other to get aroung the wreck!!! What pisses me off the most is that nobody had gotten out to help...I pulled around checked to make sure the person(s) had been extracted/gotten out from the overturned car and that everbody was okay....What is wrong with people???!!! Rant over.
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06-11-2008, 11:53
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It's a pervasive issue; I saw a similar story on NBC a few days ago.
I suspect that much of the civilian world (me, for example) does not have a strong sense of community. We are not involved with other people. Numerous exceptions are duly noted.
From time to time I ask people if they can give the first and last names of the 8 people who live next to them. Very, very few can.
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06-11-2008, 12:46
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I saw a similar situation when an old man was in a hit-and-run accident and people just looked at him and drove by....all the while he laid in the middle of the street. Probably what Nmap is reffering to.
I'm not really surprised when I read a similar story a few days later either....people just don't really care for the person to their left or right anymore.
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06-11-2008, 13:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swamp
A bad accident happened this morning on the way to work....the police nor the EMS had arrived by the time I got up to the overturned car (it had obviously just happened). There were assholes actually beeping at each other to get aroung the wreck!!! What pisses me off the most is that nobody had gotten out to help...I pulled around checked to make sure the person(s) had been extracted/gotten out from the overturned car and that everbody was okay....What is wrong with people???!!! Rant over. 
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Lack of Core Values and Lawyers. 
People that want to help are afraid to because if the person or their family thinks that they can get money they may sue you if they have any injury that could be implied as your fault as a non professional responder. Not a good situation but it is the reality of society.
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06-11-2008, 13:14
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Originally Posted by SF_BHT
Lack of Core Values and Lawyers. 
People that want to help are afraid to because if the person or their family thinks that they can get money they may sue you if they have any injury that could be implied as your fault as a non professional responder. Not a good situation but it is the reality of society.
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I agree.
Any physical interaction with non-family members or civilians, I now look at with a regard to potential litigation.
Good Samaritan laws do not go far enough to protect us.
TR
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06-11-2008, 14:16
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People could still try and comfort the injured person by talking to him and telling him "everything will be alright, the medic is on the way." The medic being on the way because the bystander actually called 911, rather than just driving around the accident as if nothing happened.
What a system we have...where you have to be cautious in helping others.
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06-11-2008, 15:18
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It's a "ME" world. All anyone cares about is themselves, the considerate are now the minority. People are rude, pushy and inconsiderate. No one says "bless you" anymore when a person sneezes.
I blame Dr. Spoke and the whole liberal parenting generation. People make me sick.
Idiots, all of them.
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06-11-2008, 17:36
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Originally Posted by AngelsSix
It's a "ME" world. All anyone cares about is themselves, the considerate are now the minority. People are rude, pushy and inconsiderate. No one says "bless you" anymore when a person sneezes.
I blame Dr. Spoke and the whole liberal parenting generation. People make me sick.
Idiots, all of them.
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So all do not lose hope...
I did call 911 today, right after an out-of-control driver in a pos compact
almost ran me off the road in my sisters housing edition. I pulled hard to the curb, and honked my horn loud!
Then, the car flipped a bitch and came after. I did not go in to our driveway, but rather circled the small neighboorhood.
Yep, the driver followed at a distance, but was obviously impared, due to the constant stopping and accelerating.
I called 911, and kept his creeping up to my vehicle presence in sight, so I could tell the dispatcher the exact location.
Cops showed, and the subjects were dealt with.
They said they were just looking for a house...and were lost, from what the LE told me. (We) both rolled our eyes at the same time...and I said thank you officer.
I care about this neighboorhood, darnit-all, and to hell with those that would try and creep in and steel our tranquility!! For no, all hope is NOT lost for law-abiding, neighboor-caring, right-thinking citizens, IMHO! We are still here!!!
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06-11-2008, 20:45
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Well as noted above I don't understand how people can ignore another in need of medical attention... I was driving from Va to Pa this past weekend when some jackass tried passing a dump truck on the right, (two lane highway) clipped the truck and slid into the on coming lane and was struck by an 18 wheeler head on. All five (5) occupants of the car were ejected, three adults two children. I was about four vehicles behind this, myself and the two truckers involved were the only ones to stop. Unreal.... A female adult died on scene, driver had minor injuries, third adult and children were airlifted. I couldn't get anyone to even help hold a pressure bandage.
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06-12-2008, 05:26
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I think Good Sam laws don't do enough to protect the folks with skills.
Last summer I went to a steakhouse with my in-laws (you can see where this is going) and I had to do a Heimlich on an obese 15 year-old girl who inhaled a chunk of cow.
The restaurant was packed. She stood up and was in obvious distress. Her mother, also obese and not part of the solution, started screaming.
No one stood up. Period.
Besides that lesson that no one may come to my aid when I am choking, I also learned that:
1. obese people are hard to get your arms around
2. The Heimlich is easier on TV than in real life... you have to do it about twenty times
3. vomit does not equal dislodged FB.
After I cleared the obstruction, she actually went back to eating her steak.
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06-12-2008, 06:11
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As stated above, society has become all about "Me," is afraid to stop for fear of law suits, and has become so anestisized by youtube that nothing is really horrendous anymore, just another 30 second mpg to be gawked at as they drive by.
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06-12-2008, 08:31
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Last night, I came across the fifty-cent term for the phenomenon. It's called "defusion of responsibility". Turns out, it's very common - and it has application to our every-day lives.
There was a study (I don't have a link, but can get one Friday if anyone cares) where between one and five people were brought into cubicles as part of a research study. Then another person feigned an epilectic seizure. When there was only one other person around, they tried to help 80% of the time. But when five were around, they only helped about 30% of the time. This seems like a common theme in all of the events...
Anyway, the practical application is that if you want someone to do something for you, at least make it seem like a one-to-one request. Sending out a blanket message (by email or otherwise) lets everyone ignore the message and assume someone else will take care of the problem.
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06-12-2008, 09:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nmap
Sending out a blanket message (by email or otherwise) lets everyone ignore the message and assume someone else will take care of the problem.
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How depressing.
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06-12-2008, 12:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
I agree.
Any physical interaction with non-family members or civilians, I now look at with a regard to potential litigation.
Good Samaritan laws do not go far enough to protect us.
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Agree 100%.
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06-12-2008, 12:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
I agree. Any physical interaction with non-family members or civilians, I now look at with a regard to potential litigation.
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Well, yo, yo, mo'fo'.. I hope when/if the time comes when my fat ass is layin' in the middle of the boulevard that you'll climb down outta yo V-10 Ram and come over and drag my carcass to the curb..
I'd do the same for you..
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