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Old 05-20-2008, 21:22   #1
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Wider Antiterrorism Role for Elite Forces Rejected

By THOM SHANKER
The New York Times
Published: May 21, 2008
WASHINGTON — The military’s elite Special Operations Command has quietly stepped back from a controversial plan that gave it the authority to carry out secret counterterrorism missions on its own around the world.

The decision culminates four years of misgivings within the military that the command, with its expertise in commando missions and unconventional war, would use its broader mandate too aggressively, by carrying out operations that had not been reviewed or approved by the regional commanders.

A new Special Operations commander, Adm. Eric T. Olson of the Navy Seals, has now said publicly that he intends to play a different role, and will instead continue the command’s new mission as coordinator of the military’s counterterrorism efforts around the world.

The shift reverses what Donald H. Rumsfeld put in place as defense secretary in 2004, when he said he wanted the Special Operations Command, based in Tampa, Fla., to operate unilaterally; he believed that it would be more aggressive in hunting down terrorists than the regional commanders, who are tied most closely to conventional forces.

Roger D. Carstens, a 20-year veteran of Special Operations missions who is now a senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security, a Washington policy institute, said the Special Operations Command finally “came to the conclusion that its role is not to be that of a global Lone Ranger who shows up at the last second to dispatch the bad guys.”

“That just can’t be done,” Mr. Carstens said, “or rather it should not be done.”

The change is the latest rejection of initiatives that Mr. Rumsfeld set forth during almost six years as defense secretary, before stepping down in 2006. His successor, Robert M. Gates, has increased the size of the ground forces, a move Mr. Rumsfeld resisted; signed off on a plan to keep more troops in Europe than Mr. Rumsfeld had envisioned; and called for future budgets to focus on the weapons needed to fight insurgents and terrorists today, rather than on investments in next-generation technology advocated by Mr. Rumsfeld.

Mr. Gates, a former director of central intelligence, has also reined in some Pentagon intelligence operations and has otherwise sought to ease tensions caused by what intelligence officials saw as Mr. Rumsfeld’s attempts to give the Pentagon a more dominant role in American spying efforts.

It is not known how Mr. Gates views the decision by the Special Operations Command to back away from Mr. Rumsfeld’s view of its role. Mr. Gates has not discussed it publicly, and senior aides said they were not privy to his thinking on the matter.

But senior Pentagon and military officers made clear that the Special Operations Command was not independently carrying out its own secret counterterrorism missions, but was instead coordinating counterterrorism planning across the military, as well as fulfilling its traditional role of training and equipping Special Operations forces for the armed services.

Mr. Rumsfeld outlined his views in 2004 by advocating what was known as a new Unified Command Plan, one that would have shifted the center of gravity within the military. It declared that the Special Operations Command “leads, plans, synchronizes, and as directed, executes global operations against terrorist networks.” He stressed that his reorganization was intended to permit the command to send out its own small teams to capture or kill terrorists.

But Admiral Olson used a speech in March to the Center for a New American Security to register disagreement with that approach. “There was some sense that from our headquarters in Tampa we were in the business of directing specific activities that were really in the area of operations of other commanders, and we really don’t do that,” he said in the speech. He initially spoke off the record, but under an agreement with his command, the policy institute later posted his remarks on its Web site, www.cnas.org. “What we really do is, we synchronize plans and planning in the global war on terror,” he added.

Counterterrorism missions continue to be carried out under regional commanders, Admiral Olson said. Officers at the Special Operations Command, he said, “receive the plans, review the plans, coordinate the plans, deconflict them.” He also said the command made recommendations to the Joint Chiefs and the defense secretary “on how resources ought to be allocated around the world to match the demands of the global war on terror.”

Senior officials familiar with the admiral’s thinking say his comments reflect the same deliberate approach that his predecessors have adopted in interpreting Mr. Rumsfeld’s directive, and they say it is in keeping with the instruction that the Special Operations Command carry out its own missions only when first directed by the president or the defense secretary. Senior officials said that such missions had rarely, if ever, actually happened.

Mr. Carstens, of the Center for a New American Security, said that when the Unified Command Plan was first approved by Mr. Rumsfeld, many people thought the Special Operations Command would conduct military operations regardless of whether regional commanders had approved the missions. He said the Rumsfeld vision had been rejected. “It is not what we thought it was going to be when we first received the authority,” Mr. Carstens said. The way missions are carried out today, he added, “is not much different than what we have always done.”

In many ways, Mr. Rumsfeld’s goals for the Special Operations Command are being carried out by a subordinate unit, the Joint Special Operations Command.

That command is in charge of the armed forces’ most secretive counterterrorism units, and is credited with capturing or killing many of the most wanted terrorist or insurgent leaders, including Saddam Hussein. This elite command operates in full coordination with the regional commanders in the Middle East, East Asia and other parts of the world.
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Old 05-20-2008, 21:54   #2
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— The military’s elite Special Operations Command has quietly stepped back from a controversial plan that gave it the authority to carry out secret counterterrorism missions on its own around the world.

That command is in charge of the armed forces’ most secretive counterterrorism units, and is credited with capturing or killing many of the most wanted terrorist or insurgent leaders, including Saddam Hussein. This elite command operates in full coordination with the regional commanders in the Middle East, East Asia and other parts of the word.


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Old 05-21-2008, 07:09   #3
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Adm Olson's briefing to CNAS

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Old 05-21-2008, 09:06   #4
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All I will say in an open forum--what a waste of commited time, money, experiance, and talent.

I guess the writings on the wall--the GWOT is over--give everybody a medal and go back to sleep.

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Old 05-21-2008, 09:38   #5
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I guess the world is indeed flat...
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:07   #6
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Of course, the one plan of action that would probably work best is rejected.

As a U.S. civilian, I would enjoy seeing the results of QP's aggressively working around the world. Increase their budget and cut them loose. I would gladly pay a lot more in taxes directed to them to help them do their job.

Had a dream 2 weeks ago I had a Bill Gates budget ( I said it was a dream).

In the dream, I could well afford a few billion to go here and there.

Guess were a large chunk of my money was going.....
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:26   #7
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Sounds like they are getting ready for one of those Liberals to move into the White House.
Rumsfeld had his problems. But one thing you cant argue with thou. He was a friend of Special Operations. I always remember what he said when he visited Bragg one time.
"When the President dials 911, FT Bragg answers the phone"
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Old 05-21-2008, 13:48   #8
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This is actually a step in the right direction. ADM Olson's remarks ring true and address a stark reality that many of us have known for some time. Put simply, we cannot execute an effective global CT/ COIN campaign from SOCOM's basement in Tampa. That authority must be powered down to the regional Combatant Commanders who, working through their Theater Special Operations Commands and apportioned SOF, can best employ the full spectrum of kinetic and non-kinetic capabilities to find, fix, and finish the threat. And believe me, it's the 'find' and 'fix' parts that are the most difficult and resource-intensive. They require a tactile feel for the area of operations---something that can only be gained by living and working in the environment 24l7, not by staring at a UAV feed six time zones away from the action. SOCOM should certainly have a role in planning, synchronizing and resourcing, but actions on the objective would be best left to others.

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Old 05-21-2008, 13:55   #9
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This is actually a step in the right direction. ADM Olson's remarks ring true and address a stark reality that many of us have known for some time. Put simply, we cannot execute an effective global CT/ COIN campaign from SOCOM's basement in Tampa. That authority must be powered down to the regional Combatant Commanders who, working through their Theater Special Operations Commands and apportioned SOF, can best employ the full spectrum of kinetic and non-kinetic capabilities to find, fix, and finish the threat. And believe me, it's the 'find' and 'fix' parts that are the most difficult and resource-intensive. They require a tactile feel for the area of operations---something that can only be gained by living and working in the environment 24l7, not by staring at a UAV feed six time zones away from the action. SOCOM should certainly have a role in planning, synchronizing and resourcing, but actions on the objective should be left to others.

Just my two cents.

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I concur. We pushed for a "global scout" initiative some years back that would allow "preparation of potential battlespace" but personal management requirements and rice bowls got trampled all over and it never got off the ground. If we are serious about this we need folks on the ground, where we want them, now and not after someone decides we need to respond to a threat we could have defused, rechanneled, or created for some other potential advesary to tie up their resources and tip their hand.
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Old 05-21-2008, 17:07   #10
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From ADM Olsen's brief:
"The term, though, is evolving. To describe, it is combat foreign internal defense. Combat FID, a variation of a doctrinal term which has to do with training and assisting our enemies, but in this case we are eating, sleeping, working, training, and fighting alongside them."

First, I'm hoping he meant "training and assisting our allies", and second, I didn't realize there was a peacetime constraint on the definition of FID.
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From ADM Olsen's brief:
" I didn't realize there was a peacetime constraint on the definition of FID.

Kind of reminds me of a conference I had to attend called "Minor and Unconventional Warfare" hosted by eggheads that had no idea that UW(like FID) can be performed across the entire spectrum of conflict. I also took great satisfaction in telling them when someone crams the muzzle of a loaded wpn up your left nostril it is anything but "Minor".
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