04-21-2008, 22:09
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Guerrilla
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Checking in to give Razor grief....
I've been without a computer for months now and finally got it back from the repair shop...just checking in to make sure Razor is behaving (ha!) and see how the rest of you gentlemen and ladies are doing.
My fingers are crossed right now...been with my current department for two years and I have been "informed" that I need to put in for the Homicide Unit. There's normally a three year minimum, but you know how that goes. I think my hubby has greater faith that I'll get it than I do :-). 1700 officers and only two years on, it's hard to believe anyone has taken notice....
The interview process should be starting soon, wish me luck!!
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04-21-2008, 22:14
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Did your husband give you permission to leave the kitchen to use the computer?
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04-21-2008, 22:16
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Thanks!
Razor will have me up for hours researching his shit.
Stay safe.
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04-21-2008, 22:27
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Like all good medics, he sits there and does what he's told  .
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04-22-2008, 02:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue
My fingers are crossed right now...been with my current department for two years and I have been "informed" that I need to put in for the Homicide Unit. There's normally a three year minimum, but you know how that goes. I think my hubby has greater faith that I'll get it than I do :-). 1700 officers and only two years on, it's hard to believe anyone has taken notice....
The interview process should be starting soon, wish me luck!!
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The command staff must have "informed" them they need more females in the unit.
Ain't diversity a bitch?
Good luck.
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04-22-2008, 07:22
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Congrats and Good Luck Blue!
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04-22-2008, 07:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mdb23
The command staff must have "informed" them they need more females in the unit.
Ain't diversity a bitch?
Good luck.
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04-22-2008, 08:32
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LOL!
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdb23
The command staff must have "informed" them they need more females in the unit.
Ain't diversity a bitch?
Good luck.
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I got in trouble for some thing like that on a "construction" site.
Stay safe.
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04-22-2008, 09:00
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Guerrilla
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mdb23
The command staff must have "informed" them they need more females in the unit.
Ain't diversity a bitch?
Good luck.
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Of course. It could never be considered that I might have actually earned the position.
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04-22-2008, 09:07
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Originally Posted by Blue
Of course. It could never be considered that I might have actually earned the position.
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Blue:
I do believe that mdb is twitting you...ie, I saw no malice in his post.
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04-22-2008, 10:30
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Originally Posted by Blue
Of course. It could never be considered that I might have actually earned the position.
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I really was just messing with you, hence the smiley. Besides, I don't hate the players, I hate the game. LOL
Look, at my PD (which is roughly the same size as yours), Homicide is one of the most coveted jobs there is.... guys spend years working their way to that unit. They do their field time, then go over to violent crimes..... work their way from DV or Juvi Crimes to Robbery, then move up to Homicide. It's a vetting process that takes years of work. It's where our "best of the best" go after years of proving themselves as cops and then as detectives. I can't imagine that it is -that- different at your PD.
So know that it will raise eyebrows when the guys at homicide specifically come to you, with 2 years of patrol experience under your belt, and "inform" you that you really need to put in for homicide. Either you are the greatest, most dynamic, Earth shattering cop to have ever worn a gunbelt (which is entirely possible), or there is another variable.
Let me ask you an honest question...... there are 1700 cops at your PD. Many of these cops have years of experience on you, have already put in years in other investigative positions, have conducted tons on interrogations, worked hundreds of crime scenes as detectives, etc..... what do you, with 2 years of patrol experience, bring to the table that is so exceptional that it justifies the dept waiving the 3 year field requirment and putting you straight into homicide? What makes you so "head and shoulders" better than the other cops that have done their time, have already been assigned to other investigative units, etc.?
I honestly have no doubts that you are an amazing cop, and probably a great person to work with and be around. No doubt at all. I am not questioning your abilities or your character. I am sure that both are top notch.
But since you asked me why it couldn't be that you have simply earned the position.... my answer to that would be part of earning it is having to do your time in the field like everyone else. I think everyone should be treated the same.
Like I said, no doubts that you are an exceptional officer, or they wouldn't have come to you. But I am equally as sure that there are other exceptional officers at your PD who have done their 3 years, have already been detectives, and therefore have "earned" the job more than you at this point in your career. Should you get the position (which you probably will, or they wouldn't have sought you out), these dudes will be pissed.
I really do wish you the best of luck K. Like I said, it is the whole process and system that I have a problem with, not with you.
Don't hate the player, hate the game, right?
Take care, and good luck.
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04-22-2008, 11:22
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Originally Posted by Blue
Of course. It could never be considered that I might have actually earned the position.
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Blue,
Good luck! Keep kickin' a**!
Holly
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04-22-2008, 13:32
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Sorry, Terry, there is previous history I am drawing on.
mdb23, since you do not know the whole story, the climate at my department, nor do you know exactly what ALL of my professional experience is, the below is pure supposition and speculation and smacks of jealousy.
It was not the "command" staff that came to me asking me to put in. It was the guys (read: male Homicide detectives who have YEARS in the unit and no desire to attempt to get into my pants) on the ground, who know my work and know my experience. You have made it clear before you think my previous experience (what little you know of it) is worthless, but apparently you are alone in that regard. If anyone is "pissed" if I get the position, then they should have worked harder. If they were just looking for a p*$#y to fill a position, then surely one of the hundreds of other women with far more experience would have been better to approach.
Admins, please just delete this thread. So much for good tidings.
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Originally Posted by mdb23
I really was just messing with you, hence the smiley. Besides, I don't hate the players, I hate the game. LOL
Look, at my PD (which is roughly the same size as yours), Homicide is one of the most coveted jobs there is.... guys spend years working their way to that unit. They do their field time, then go over to violent crimes..... work their way from DV or Juvi Crimes to Robbery, then move up to Homicide. It's a vetting process that takes years of work. It's where our "best of the best" go after years of proving themselves as cops and then as detectives. I can't imagine that it is -that- different at your PD.
So know that it will raise eyebrows when the guys at homicide specifically come to you, with 2 years of patrol experience under your belt, and "inform" you that you really need to put in for homicide. Either you are the greatest, most dynamic, Earth shattering cop to have ever worn a gunbelt (which is entirely possible), or there is another variable.
Let me ask you an honest question...... there are 1700 cops at your PD. Many of these cops have years of experience on you, have already put in years in other investigative positions, have conducted tons on interrogations, worked hundreds of crime scenes as detectives, etc..... what do you, with 2 years of patrol experience, bring to the table that is so exceptional that it justifies the dept waiving the 3 year field requirment and putting you straight into homicide? What makes you so "head and shoulders" better than the other cops that have done their time, have already been assigned to other investigative units, etc.?
I honestly have no doubts that you are an amazing cop, and probably a great person to work with and be around. No doubt at all. I am not questioning your abilities or your character. I am sure that both are top notch.
But since you asked me why it couldn't be that you have simply earned the position.... my answer to that would be part of earning it is having to do your time in the field like everyone else. I think everyone should be treated the same.
Like I said, no doubts that you are an exceptional officer, or they wouldn't have come to you. But I am equally as sure that there are other exceptional officers at your PD who have done their 3 years, have already been detectives, and therefore have "earned" the job more than you at this point in your career. Should you get the position (which you probably will, or they wouldn't have sought you out), these dudes will be pissed.
I really do wish you the best of luck K. Like I said, it is the whole process and system that I have a problem with, not with you.
Don't hate the player, hate the game, right?
Take care, and good luck.
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04-22-2008, 13:47
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I went to a murder investigation, I will not say where  I was looking at photo's of the dead guy, shot in the head with 00 buck. On his face was a wonderful imprint of the shotshell plastic wad. I was mentioning the fact the shooter was fairly close to have the wad impact and leave a perfect inprint on the deadguys face. The homicide det (male) didn't have a clue what I was talking about..... we then went into how shot gun shells are made......
mdb23,
The next out of line comment you make you will be gone. If you even hint at such I will ban you myself.
Lest you forget I am married to a Trauma Surgeon & Vice Chair of Surgery. This is not a mans world, not in the least.
Keep your gender comments/thoughts & inferences to yourself or take them somewhere else.
There will be no second warning.
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04-22-2008, 14:00
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Originally Posted by Blue
Sorry, Terry, there is previous history I am drawing on.
mdb23, since you do not know the whole story, the climate at my department, nor do you know exactly what ALL of my professional experience is, the below is pure supposition and speculation and smacks of jealousy.
It was not the "command" staff that came to me asking me to put in. It was the guys (read: male Homicide detectives who have YEARS in the unit and no desire to attempt to get into my pants) on the ground, who know my work and know my experience. You have made it clear before you think my previous experience (what little you know of it) is worthless, but apparently you are alone in that regard. If anyone is "pissed" if I get the position, then they should have worked harder.
Admins, please just delete this thread. So much for good tidings.
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Blue:
No, I was not aware of any history...Good luck!
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