04-12-2008, 09:32
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52 seconds on why Obama cannot be allowed to win a general election
If this wont disgust you I dont know what will...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs
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04-12-2008, 09:57
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I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material...
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I will negotiate with russia to take our ICBM's off hair trigger alert...
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This is why our media sucks. Why aren't there any questions in response like, "How exactly are you going to do this?"
"Do you expect the rest of the world, including terrorists who see blowing all of us to kingdom come a holy thing, to just follow suit?"
"Who in Russia are you going to negotiate with?"
"With what are you planning to negotiate?"
"What will this negotation look like? Hey Putin, I promise I won't shoot you if you don't shoot me. Don't worry, I trust you. And believe me when I say, that as the leader of this whole Hope Hype, you can trust me!  "
I am now completely speechless that people actually believe this man when he says these things.
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04-12-2008, 10:09
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I don't know what exactly he means by hair-trigger alert. The only one who can authorize nuke release is the President. This is making an issue out of nothing because it sounds good to certain donors.
I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt on the FCS and QDR comments. There's a lot of lessons from the first 6 years of the GWOT that need to be digested before we spend a ton of money to reset the Army with a new generation of equipment. Still, the tone of the add sounds a lot less like the reasonable "we're going to be smarter on defense spending" and a lot more like "we're going to get control of these weapons-obsessed fools over at the Pentagon."
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04-12-2008, 10:49
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Originally Posted by x-factor
I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt on the FCS and QDR comments.
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May I inquire as to why?
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04-12-2008, 11:11
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Because I don't want to be too cynical about politics. I think Obama is a good guy trying to do good. That doesn't mean I agree with him, but I don't feel a need to jump to the worst conclusion possible.
And like I said, there's a legit case to be made for slowing down on FCS and re-examining some of the development assumptions.
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04-12-2008, 11:33
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...I think Obama is a good guy trying to do good...
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And what do pray do you base this on?
I have seen nothing of the guy that is good or not self serving. He is a racist at heart and personally I feel he wants to divide this country even more, not bring it together.
He wants the withdrawal of our troops from Iraq before the job is finished, leave Iran to do what they will, and wants to end our nuclear defense programs. Good guy trying to do good things my ass.
Crip
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04-12-2008, 11:37
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Originally Posted by x-factor
Because I don't want to be too cynical about politics. I think Obama is a good guy trying to do good. That doesn't mean I agree with him, but I don't feel a need to jump to the worst conclusion possible.
And like I said, there's a legit case to be made for slowing down on FCS and re-examining some of the development assumptions.
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May I respectfully submit that B. Hussein Obama is not a good guy, would do nothing for Our defense, or Our armed forces, and would in fact attempt to cripple all progress made thanks to the bravery, service, sacrifice and shed blood of Our Military.
And X, I hope you are having a great day today, b/c if this tool is elected IMHO, those good days as a free American could be numbered.
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04-12-2008, 11:42
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Cric - I'm not saying he's not heinously and dangerously wrong on Iraq and defense issues...but being wrong is not the same as being ill-intentioned.
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04-12-2008, 12:12
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X, To add: Ill-Intentioned? Have you been following the news? Go ahead and jump to the worst conclusion, it is glaringly obvious!
JMHO, but Obama's 52 second speech says it all about his intentions, his character, and where he wants to lead this Country. This thread also says it all about those who willingly choose to ignore the obvious, and maybe it is because some find him to be an attractive man? (Am just a woman after all.)
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04-12-2008, 12:44
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Either he is incredibly naive or just plain stupid. Nuclear technology (weapons) aren't ever going to go away. The genie is out of the bottle.
From the sound of it, he's making a strong pitch to the super lefty wing of the democratic party.
I don't think anyone is a fan of wasteful spending, specifically big budget programs that turn into money sucking behemoths. But a 'review' process already exists if costs are justified, the Senator himself doesn't realize it (guess he hasn't been there enough running for President an all) - it's called Congress!
Make as many committees you want or 'review panels'. At the end of the day, it'll be the check and balance between President and Congress that will determine what gets spent. Wasteful spending? How about welfare hand outs?
The esteemed Senator may not realize that spending from this war has trickled down into small communities, factories, businesses, etc, keeping manufacturing afloat in many cases where it wouldn't because the only customer is DOD. If you're gonna do "welfare", at least make people work for something in return (in this case the defense of the country).
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04-12-2008, 12:48
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Amazed...
Considering what this guy says, how he votes in the Senate, how he got his house in Chicago, what his wife says, where he spent 20 years worth of Sundays (100% of the congregants swaying to the gyrations of Rev. Wright - "Damn America! --- Amen Brother, pass the offering down!"), considering who his spiritual advisor was for those years, what he thinks about Joe and Mary Small Town America as they are "clinging" desperately to their faith and guns...blah, blah, blah, blah.
I'm amazed that anyone in America can still be discussing this man's "wrong policies" but otherwise "good nature." Virtues? I'm sorry, I can't see them and I don't think I'm cynical, either. I see a slick empty suit - a charismatic speaker, yes - What I really see is a vacuous sock-puppet politician.
Wow, can this guy snooker people or what? I'm amazed at the friggin spell this man can cast. It's scary - It absolutely, positively scary.
Are we losing it folks? Have we lost our minds? Have we? Barak Obama is a two-bit opportunist...It's America that worries me. We're getting duped.
I hope we wake-up.
Three Soldier Dad...Chuck
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04-12-2008, 15:43
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Today Obama was nice enough to point out the reason I own Guns is because I am a bitter person. I always wonder why I own, Knives, Great Danes, want to be a Cop and drive Trucks.
Please Obama, tell me more about my misguided existence on this earth you liberal socialist left wing elitist Pus$%#y.
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04-12-2008, 15:49
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Originally Posted by x-factor
Because I don't want to be too cynical about politics. I think Obama is a good guy trying to do good. That doesn't mean I agree with him, but I don't feel a need to jump to the worst conclusion possible.
And like I said, there's a legit case to be made for slowing down on FCS and re-examining some of the development assumptions.
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My time is very limited these days. So I come here to see what my buds are saying. If I wanted to hear your left wing liberal crap on my limited INTERNET time I would surf a different Forum. We all know what he is. Your positive opinion of him is a wast of space around here.
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04-12-2008, 15:58
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Hypocrite, liberal, smug, self righteous, condescending asshat-any of these will do. When a man running for the most important position in the world makes a statement such as this "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said. "And it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
...well Mr. Barak Hussein Obama, what do you turn to in time of need? Your church and it's racist rantings???? You and your wife's higher paying than 90 percent of America's citizens job? The comfort of knowing your two daughters will not be burdened by children? No, I believe you and your wife are the most obvious oportunists I have seen in politics since...well the Klintoons! The sheeple must be set straight lest this country be bound to failure, and I fear irreparable harm.
Change indeed sir!
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04-12-2008, 16:07
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As pointed out by our own resident ABM, his first name was really Barry!!!
Try Googling Barry Obama, you'll be surprised!!!
And the TRUE name for his ilk, are DICKWEEDS!!!
Later
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