Clinton health plan may mean tapping pay

[BMT (RIP)]

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[warrottjr]

Originally Posted by BMT

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"Democrat [Hitlery] Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to have workers' wages garnisheed if they refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans."

"[Der Fuhrer] said such measures would apply only to workers who can afford health coverage but refuse to buy it..."

Zieg Heil!

[rubberneck]

I don't know why more independent and conservative Democrats aren't scared out of their mind at the prospect of a second Clinton Presidency. That is downright bizarre. So much for individual freedom over the next four years. The sad part is the media has the public convinced of the fact that the current administration is openly hostile to individual freedoms. I wonder if they will ever give voice to Hilary's desire to crush the individual through income redistribution, forced socialized healthcare and the destruction of the 2nd amendment.....

[warrottjr]

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/story?id=4235448&page=1

[kgoerz]

"The misleading information that Sen. Obama's campaign is putting out, that I will force people to do it even if they can't afford it, is absolutely untrue."

The people that can afford it will end up paying for the other person. Mainly the ones not willing to work.. I heard her say the other day "redistributing Americas wealth will benefit Americans everywhere" Socialism at it's best.

[the squid]

Her frightening socialist notions aside, does anyone find it ironic that as members of the military you might have to pay for health care that you don't need?

Have x percentage of your wages taken out for health care, but your's is free anyway.

I might vote for Obama in the Democratic Primary just so I can say I tried to ensure that Hillary does not get the nomination.

I could live with an Obama presidency, not something I'd prefer, or even like, but Hillary just scares me with her Hairy legs/UC-Berkeley/Joan Baez/Karl Marx reading/flag burning/man eating Feminazi Socialist leanings.

[kgoerz]

Thats my question also. Not only Military. What about all the people who have Health Care provided by their Employer. Are they going to have to flip the bill also.

[Gypsy]

Originally Posted by kgoerz

Thats my question also. Not only Military. What about all the people who have Health Care provided by their Employer. Are they going to have to flip the bill also.

My question as well, because I have no interest in giving any of my money out to fund socialist plans. My employer generously funds all but a very small employee contribution for our chosen coverage.

Our Country will be in a world of shit if that woman is voted in as POTUS, in more ways than one.

[rubberneck]

I am self employed. Right now I pay $865.31 a month for health care insurance for the family. It was $1221.45 but I increased my co-pays and deductibles just to ensure that I could continue to get it done. I make a good living by most standards but I live in one of the most expensive areas in the country and the money doesn't go as far as Hillary would lead you to believe.

By the Democrats estimation I am one of those that will have to give for the better good which means I won't be able to put money away for my kids college fund. I'll be damned if I pay for some sad sack who couldn't be bothered. If they don't want to pay for their own way than they can get stuffed. Those that can't afford it have access to medicare. Hillary and the rest of the Democrats can go to hell.

[kgoerz]

Originally Posted by rubberneck

I am self employed. Right now I pay $865.31 a month for health care insurance for the family. It was $1221.45 but I increased my co-pays and deductibles just to ensure that I could continue to get it done. I make a good living by most standards but I live in one of the most expensive areas in the country and the money doesn't go as far as Hillary would lead you to believe.

By the Democrats estimation I am one of those that will have to give for the better good which means I won't be able to put money away for my kids college fund. I'll be damned if I pay for some sad sack who couldn't be bothered. If they don't want to pay for their own way than they can get stuffed. Those that can't afford it have access to medicare. Hillary and the rest of the Democrats can go to hell.

According to Hillary anyone making over $100,000 a year is upper class. Kind of a let down being upper class these days when your expected to hand over 30+% of your earnings over. More if a Dem gets elected.
Its no longer being rewarded for hard work. It's work hard to reward other people for sitting on their Asses.

[The Reaper]

The Christmas Present ad that Hillary ran is very revealing.

Clearly, she views the public coffers as a till to be raided to pay for her "something for nothing" give away programs, and the payee is always "the rich", which is usually someone else, depending on who she is talking to.

Obama is rated as even more liberal, and more of a socialist.

You young guys may not believe this, but some of us have seen this before, and know what we are talking about.

I think we get more than enough services now, and I know I pay more than my fair share for the services I receive.

Anyone who wants government health care, I invite you to visit your local free clinic, or VA hospital. That is your future.

TR

[Goggles Pizano]

Originally Posted by warrottjr

"Democrat [Hitlery] Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to have workers' wages garnisheed if they refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans."

"[Der Fuhrer] said such measures would apply only to workers who can afford health coverage but refuse to buy it..."

Zieg Heil!

I believe that would make her Die Fuhrer no?

Hillary=socialist
Obama=socialist
McCain=sometime socialist/full time arrogant bastige-a conservative you aint Johnny!

Gonna be a loooong 4 years. It will take the country 25 years to recover!

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

The Christmas Present ad that Hillary ran is very revealing.

Clearly, she views the public coffers as a till to be raided to pay for her "something for nothing" give away programs, and the payee is always "the rich", which is usually someone else, depending on who she is talking to.

Obama is rated as even more liberal, and more of a socialist.

You young guys may not believe this, but some of us have seen this before, and know what we are talking about.

I think we get more than enough services now, and I know I pay more than my fair share for the services I receive.

Anyone who wants government health care, I invite you to visit your local free clinic, or VA hospital. That is your future.

TR

I believe our brothers over the big water may have some words of wisdom related to socialized medicine...or for that matter just to our North in Canada.

The mindset and though process are baffling.

Why stop there? Why not have the government take over the hospitals and the medical schools?


Here is a little story:
One of my daughters friends wanted her to go to the local Hospice Rodeo. We had told my daughter that it was a bit too expensive, so she passed that along to her friend.

Her friend's response was "It's only $100 per person...then everything is FREE."

And you get what you pay for.

[aiki ins]

Ladies and Gents,

Mostly a lurker here, but had to comment as this is a topic I know a little about.

IMHO The free enterprise system encourages the finest medical professionals to want to ply their trade in the US. Interesting how those who live in other countries with a single payor/socialist systems come here for treatment when they take ill.

[the squid]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Anyone who wants government health care, I invite you to visit your local free clinic, or VA hospital. That is your future.

TR

I think this bears repeating, sir.

The old adage "That which governs the least governs the best" is definately applicable here.