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Old 12-30-2007, 19:38   #1
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Anti-Military Lawyer Damages Marine's Car

Anti-Military Lawyer Damages Marine's Car on Eve of Deployment

Posted By Blackfive on www.blackfive.net

This ought to make your blood boil. And this Marine should receive a commendation for not kicking the living crap out of the guy...seriously.

Marine Sgt Mike McNulty is on activation orders to Iraq (second tour). On December 1st, 2007, Mike went to visit a friend in Chicago before deploying to say goodbye. In order to get to his friend's residence, and keep in mind that Chicago is a myriad of diagonal and one-way streets, the front entrance (right way) to the one-way street was blocked. Mike, being a Marine, overcame and adapted by driving around the block to the other end of the street and backing up all the way to his friend's place.

While saying goodbye, at about 11am, he noticed a man leaning up against his car. Mike left his friend's apartment and caught the man keying his car on multiple sides.
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After caught in the process, the man told Mike, "you think you can do whatever you want with Department of Defense license plates and tags". (In Illinois you can purchase veteran, Marine, or medal plates. Mike has Illinois Marine Corps license plates.) During the exchange, he made additional anti-military comments.

Mike called the Chicago police and had the man arrested. A citation against the man was issued for misdemeanor criminal damage to private property.

The police report (and I have copies if needed) states:

Victim related to P/O that as he walked back to his vehicle, he observed the offender leaning up against his vehicle and rubbed/dragged his left arm and hand across the passenger side. As offender walked away from victim's vehicle, victim observed a scratch along the rear trunk and passenger's door area where offender dragged his arm and hand over. Victim and witness stopped offender and confronted him. Victim has military plates and decals on his vehicle and offender made anti war and military comments to victim. Upon P/O's arrival to scene, offender denied scratch victim's vehicle, but did admit to rubbing past it. Victim at this time did not sign complaint, because he is leaving tour for military duty. Offender said they accused him of scratching the car because he is Jewish. Offender's statements/responses to P/O's questions unreasonable.

As it turns out, the man is Chicago lawyer Jay R. Grodner, who owns a law firm in the city and has offices in the suburbs.

After sending the car to the body shop, it was determined there is $2400 in damage, making this a felony. Mike went to court Friday morning to collect the damages against Mr. Grodner and file felony charges. Though the damages are over $300 (the amount which determines felony or misdemeanor) Grodner offered Mike to pay his deductible, $100, and have Mike's insurance pay for it.

The Illinois States Attorneys tried to coerce Mike into accepting the offer. Appalled, Mike said he wanted this to be a felony. The state told Mike that it was not worth pursuing felony damage against Grodner because they don't have the time. In addition, the state prosecutors told him that he would never it 'would be difficult to recover the damages' from Grodner because he is a lawyer.

Instead, the State asked Mike if he would accept probation for Grodner. Mike accepted, probation was offered to Grodner, and Grodner declined the offer, saying within ear shot of Mike, "I'm not going to make it easy on this kid". Mike's next court date is tomorrow, Monday, December 31st, to pursue misdemeanor charges against Grodner.

Mike's leave is over on January 2nd when he reports to Camp Pendleton before heading to Iraq.

Jay Grodner knows this and is going to file for a continuance until Mike is gone and cannot appear in court.

By account of the Illinois State's Attorneys, Grodner is likely to get away with defacing Mike's car with no penalty because, 1) Mike is about to deploy to Iraq and will not be available to appear in court, and 2) Grodner is a lawyer and can get out of this very easily.

So, does anyone have any ideas about how to proceed? All peaceful and rational ideas are welcomed. We are contacting the media about this, too.

Please pass this story on to anyone you know that might be able to help. Contact me at blackfive@gmail.com if you have any information or ideas.

Thanks!

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Posted by: Three Soldier Dad...Chuck

Mr. Grodner's contact info is...

Jay R. Grodner
Law Offices of Jay R. Grodner
Principal Office-Deerfield
625 Deerfield Road –Suite 406
Deerfield, IL 60015
Phone: (847) 444-1500
Fax: (847) 444-0663
Downtown Chicago
30 N. LaSalle St. - Suite 1210
Chicago, IL 60602
Phone: (312) 236-1142
Fax: (312) 236-6036
Email: jayrg8@aol.com
Web: http://www.jaygrodner.com (site currently down)



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Old 12-30-2007, 19:45   #2
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What a lousy POS this guy is. Blackfive's fan base is enormous, I hope someone is able to help this Marine.
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Old 12-30-2007, 19:58   #3
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Yeah, I saw it just got picked-up by Town Hall, too...

If an attorney on this site would go after this guy, and there was a kitty to cover some costs I'd kick in some dough $$$...This dude needs a visit to the woodshed.

Some creative thinking is in order.


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I hope someone beats his ass.

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Old 12-30-2007, 20:57   #5
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I hope someone beats his ass.

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Or takes it out on HIS car.

Repeatedly.

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Or takes it out on HIS car.

Repeatedly.

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Or both...
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Old 12-30-2007, 21:53   #7
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Or takes it out on HIS car.

Repeatedly.

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With him in it.......perhaps????

I'm game
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Or both...
You are thinking like I'm thinking

Sleepover at Gypsy's house!!!!!

I'll bring the lighter.......wait a minute......I've got a torch somewhere......found it!!
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You are thinking like I'm thinking

Sleepover at Gypsy's house!!!!!

I'll bring the lighter.......wait a minute......I've got a torch somewhere......found it!!
Ok but it's BYOB, my car cost me a small fortune at the beginning of Dec and I'm tapped...
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Old 12-30-2007, 22:05   #10
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In most states victims can designate a lawful representative in there absence.

Also video tap his deposition to be used as his testimony for trial while he is gone.
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Old 12-30-2007, 23:15   #11
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It would seem to be a reasonable solution...I'm not sure of the requirements as it relates here.

A commentor on the Blackfive site posted he'd be able to help, he must have taken that offline with Matt (Blackfive).

Someone elsewhere found some interesting info on this jackass, but as it's not 100% verifiable it's the same guy, but probably is, I won't post it here.
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:24   #12
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Wow, I think I know Mike-of course there could be more than one SGT Mike McNulty in the Marine Corps in the Chicago area. If it's one and the same-well, the lawyer likely picked the wrong "kid" to mess with-although he does look like a kid!
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Old 12-31-2007, 10:00   #13
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This is just totally unacceptable. My son is a Marine and if this ever happened to him someone would be in the hospital with multiple contusions and lacerations, not to mention a few broken bones. Anyway, if this Marine needs help monetarily to help fight this while he is gone, my husbnad and I are game.
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Old 12-31-2007, 10:53   #14
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The last thing I would want on my mind is the thought of again facing a pissed off Marine Sergeant that has spent multiple combat tours in lethal environment knowing I deliberately and with complete malice screwed him over.

When this Marine Sergeant deploys all he’s going to have on his mind is that lowlife scum of a human attorney for the entire year or so he’s deployed.

Jay R. Grodner will not be sleeping well in the months to come I’m sure.

Five bucks says Jay R. Grodner shaves his head, changes his name to Mahatma Gandhi, and moves to New Zealand.


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Principal Office-Deerfield

625 Deerfield Road –Suite 406

Deerfield, IL 60015

Phone: (847) 444-1500

Fax: (847) 444-0663

Downtown Chicago
30 N. LaSalle St. - Suite 1210
Chicago, IL 60602
Phone: (312) 236-1142
Fax: (312) 236-6036
Email: jayrg8@aol.com
Web: http://www.jaygrodner.com (site is still down)
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Old 12-31-2007, 10:58   #15
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It appears that as a result of all the blog coverage this has gotten this asshat's website is down. Googling his name brings up a lot of blogs that have brought this story to light. I'm forwarding the info to every news service I can hoping that someone will pick up on it and make this guy miserable.
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