10-16-2007, 16:05
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A tincture of benzoin
Not quite sure you can call this stuff "gear", so figured the best place was the medical part of the forum, i hope someone can help me out.
Alot of threads on this forum mentions a "a tincture of benzoin" in relation to rucking and foot care, as im finding myself picking up the rucksack more and more lately I figure its time to add it to my blisterkit - So the question is, does anyone know of a good brand/supplier that can send it overseas(europe).
It might seem like a bit of a dumb question, but i tried my google-fu on it, and there seems to be alot of different brands out there, ranging from large aerosol cans, to more manageable "drippers" - What's the docs' favorite brand? 
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-Tetrian
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10-16-2007, 18:00
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PDI swabsticks is what I use and prefer.
As for who will ship to Europe, I have no idea.
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10-16-2007, 19:04
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Originally Posted by Tetrian
Not quite sure you can call this stuff "gear", so figured the best place was the medical part of the forum, i hope someone can help me out.
Alot of threads on this forum mentions a "a tincture of benzoin" in relation to rucking and foot care, as im finding myself picking up the rucksack more and more lately I figure its time to add it to my blisterkit - So the question is, does anyone know of a good brand/supplier that can send it overseas(europe).
It might seem like a bit of a dumb question, but i tried my google-fu on it, and there seems to be alot of different brands out there, ranging from large aerosol cans, to more manageable "drippers" - What's the docs' favorite brand?
Thanks in advance,
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Most people do not use it for that anymore.
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10-19-2007, 19:51
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Thanks for the answers guys.
The Reaper,
Im a bit curious to the reason as the product is a big unknown to me(benzoin is not something i have ever heard of in denmark).
Is there a generic replacement such as the PDI swapsticks surgicalcric mentioned or are people just using various other desinfecting solutions and tape due to them being more available today or whats the reason ?
Surgicalcric,
Thanks, i didnt even know those existed(actually thought swabsticks=babywipes/alcohol tissues at first) - I noticed they come with lemon, iodine and some others. I assume i would want the alchohol ones? 
Thanks
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10-19-2007, 20:03
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Sorry, double post.
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10-21-2007, 08:39
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Originally Posted by Tetrian
Thanks for the answers guys.
The Reaper,
Im a bit curious to the reason as the product is a big unknown to me(benzoin is not something i have ever heard of in denmark).
Is there a generic replacement such as the PDI swapsticks surgicalcric mentioned or are people just using various other desinfecting solutions and tape due to them being more available today or whats the reason ?
Surgicalcric,
Thanks, i didnt even know those existed(actually thought swabsticks=babywipes/alcohol tissues at first) - I noticed they come with lemon, iodine and some others. I assume i would want the alchohol ones?
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AFAIK, it is fine for swabsticks and external applications.
I was referring to no longer injecting it.
TR
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10-21-2007, 09:17
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...I noticed they come with lemon, iodine and some others. I assume i would want the alchohol ones?
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No, you want the Tincture of Benzoin ones.
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10-21-2007, 11:26
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Oh, misunderstood that one Surgicalcric - Thank you again 
The reaper,
I feel like im asking an endless range of questions here, but any chance you could fill me in on the reason behind the injections not being used anymore? 
-Tetrian
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10-21-2007, 11:29
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Oh, misunderstood that one Surgicalcric - Thank you again
The reaper,
I feel like im asking an endless range of questions here, but any chance you could fill me in on the reason behind the injections not being used anymore?
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Why do we not use leeches any more?
TR
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10-21-2007, 17:20
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Why do we not use leeches any more?
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Leeches on blisters? Never heard that one before..
They still do some amazing things with leeches now a days.
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10-21-2007, 18:42
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Leeches on blisters? Never heard that one before..
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We dont use leeches on blisters. You missed TR's reference.
What TR was trying to get across is the fact that leeches were at one time a "cure all," just as injecting Benzoin was a cure all for blisters. Do Benzoin injections work, yes. Is it the best thing for the patient, sometimes but more often than not its the best thing for the mission. In either case they (leeches and Benzoin) are still options, but not the first choice for most.
Hope that clears it up a bit...
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10-21-2007, 21:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Surgicalcric
We dont use leeches on blisters. You missed TR's reference.
What TR was trying to get across is the fact that leeches were at one time a "cure all," just as injecting Benzoin was a cure all for blisters. Do Benzoin injections work, yes. Is it the best thing for the patient, sometimes but more often than not its the best thing for the mission. In either case they (leeches and Benzoin) are still options, but not the first choice for most.
Hope that clears it up a bit...
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haha, I kinda thought thats what he meant, long slow day at work. Yay, for me being clueless...  
Leeches sure aren't a cure all but they are still used. Seen them used on finger amputations once its sewn back on, to help the blood flow again and to remove the 'bad' blood. Pretty cool
My favorite is maggots for de-breading wounds..
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10-23-2007, 01:01
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Not sure i would refer to having maggots inserted into my wounds as a favorite, Crash
Team Sergeant and Surgicalcric, Thank you both for the clarifications very much appreciated.
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10-23-2007, 05:18
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Not sure i would refer to having maggots inserted into my wounds as a favorite, Crash
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Highly trained maggots? They bread them to only eat the non-viable tissue. Pretty cool actually, they munch right down to the live tissue.
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10-23-2007, 07:48
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Why do we not use leeches any more?
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Mumblypeg, any thoughts here?
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