10-09-2007, 21:19
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Looking for recent SFAS and SFQC graduates
I have been searching the forums for a list of names of recent graduates that I can contact (private message, email, or phone conversation). Rather than sending out several messages, I thought it would be best to create a new thread and let anyone who wants to help me, do so. I want to join Special Forces more than anything in the world, and need to ask a few questions to those who have BTDT.
Please note this is a more personal set of questions, rather than the typical "search and read". I have fully researched this board and feel confident in my knowledge of terms, the 18x pipeline, etc. The purpose of this thread is to get one-on-one correspondence with an individual who can help me with my journey.
For reference: I picked up a copy of "Get Selected for Special Forces" and am in the process of reading it. It's a great read, and I hope to discuss a few things with members on this forum. So far, I haven't been able to put it down.
Thank you for your time,
-Sign me up
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10-09-2007, 22:20
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Originally Posted by Sign me up
...I want to join Special Forces more than anything in the world, and need to ask a few questions to those who have BTDT.
Please note this is a more personal set of questions, rather than the typical "search and read"...
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I am curious about what type of "personal" questions you might have that your enlistment hinges on them?
There are quite a few of us here on the board who are "recent" graduates but the number who will have pertinent advice for you may be determined by the subject of which you are requiring info. How about narrowing it down a bit.
Better not be any touchy-feely questions about family or spouses/girlfriends...
Welcome to PS.
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10-09-2007, 23:29
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Well now that you mention it, the reason I want to join SF is because my girlfriend dumped me and I love all the "Splinter Cell" video games where he's all Delta-Force and kills the bad guys. I wanna be that guy.
(**I love to joke around a little... I hope it's not a bad thing to have a sense of humor in SF  )
Basically I'm not looking for info. I can search for that on my own time. My intent is to better my chances for success by talking about some experiences candidates have had.... you know, get to know them and how they "made it". I want to succeed so bad and will talk to anyone and everyone about anything and everything.
Here's one example of a question I might ask (specifically for 18x'ers): Prior to even thinking about setting foot in SFAS, every 18x candidate must complete Infantry Basic/AIT, Airborne, and SOPC I, which takes nearly half a year.
SFAS will be the most challenging experience of my life, and I want to be fully prepared physically before arrival. My original plan was to take the 5 - week workout program (listed on this site) and do it several times, while increasing weight, increasing distance, and decreasing time. This could add up to several months of need be.
However, upon reading that I have nearly half a year of basic training before I can even apply everything I've worked for, would so much training be overkill? Should I just do the 5-week program, start basic, and push myself harder for the next 6 months leading up to SFAS?
I'd ask that person to tell me what his training regime was prior to Basic, how confident he felt in his physical abilities, how much time he could allot to training while in Basic/Airborne/etc., and whether or not he would do it differently next time.
**This is a pretty basic one. I have some other questions about peer evaluations and other things.
Very hard to explain on a thread without going into too much detail.
Crip: I'll be sending you a pm soon. Just give me a moment to type it up
-SMU
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10-10-2007, 05:20
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Ah.....NO!
Perhaps you should have used a few more days to read and search before posting. And your sense of humor is misplaced here.
Any questions you have are either relevant and appropriate for everyone, or should not be asked. This is not the sign me up personal help line. We have articulated pretty clearly that we do not do that here.
Most of what you mentioned is already discused on this board, again, if you had applied the energy and motivation to read and search before starting this useless thread.
If I discover that you are PMing other members asking personal questions about SFAS, you will not be doing it here for very long.
Stop posting and go do PT.
Have a very SF day.
TR
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10-10-2007, 08:50
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I apologize, and it will not happen again.
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10-10-2007, 14:54
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I would worry about getting a contract first. See if the Army wants you first, and start off slowly from there............25 meter target
Have you even talked to a recruiter yet? Taken the Asvab? Been to a MEPS station?
Do you even possess the minimum requirements to secure an 18x contract........
What's your plan, if you Do Not? Do you have a back up plan?
Did you plan on serving anyways, or you just gonna be a walk on starter, or nothing at all...........
Sometimes you kids really piss me off.
Sometimes it's not How you answer the call, just that you answer.
Could be I might be out of line.........But then again, I doubt it.
Oh and By All Means, Follow the Guidance Given by The Reaper........Your Journey will end quickly if you Do Not!!!!!!
*edit for spelling*
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10-10-2007, 19:54
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LongWire,
I was planning on serving the military regardless of what my outcome is within Special Forces. This is the real deal for me, and something I have felt strongly about for a long time. I want to spend the rest of my life serving my country.
You can also delete this thread if you wish, as I have been given enough advice on how to obtain my own information. I realize this was inappropriate and apologize for starting it (I am learning and adapting every day). I won't have to be told twice, I can promise you that.
I am meeting with a recruiter tomorrow. Nothing to my knowledge would inhibit me from getting the 18x contract, but I will find out soon enough.
-SMU
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10-10-2007, 20:12
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You can also delete this thread if you wish, as I have been given enough advice on how to obtain my own information. I realize this was inappropriate and apologize for starting it (I am learning and adapting every day). I won't have to be told twice, I can promise you that.-SMU
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Negatori there Grasshopper!!
This will stand as a Warning Sign, to those that will attempt to follow!!!
One thing that WE HAVE learned is that you must learn from mistakes, from your own and preferably from those of others!!! I personally have both benefitted from those of others and unfortunately contributed to the latter!!!
SA Dude, you must acquire SA!!!! And don't respond with a ?????!!!!!
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10-10-2007, 20:33
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Well then, I'm glad I could contribute my lack of "Situational Awareness" as a warning to others.
Consider it my last
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10-10-2007, 20:37
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Crip
Crip,
Tag you're it!! He's all yours!!
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10-10-2007, 20:57
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...I'm glad I could contribute my lack of "Situational Awareness..."
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How about you stop contributing all together for now and use the search button as previously suggested in PM.
My father once told me, "Son when you find yourself in a hole its best to put down the shovel."
That was good advice; you should follow it. That means DONT REPLY!
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10-11-2007, 00:25
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Something clicked in my head. I GET it now. No more posting for me, ever. I'm here to learn.
You're probably thinking "oh god, he posted AGAIN!" when reading this. Just realize that this is sincere, and rather than leaving this thread to die, I have to fully apologize for everything that has happened and leave on a good note.
I see what this is all about now. Thank you for your patience, as I have learned a lot today. Wish me luck,
-SMU
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10-11-2007, 04:55
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The Last Word In
People who just have to get "The Last Word In" really irritate Team Sergeants, Instructors and Sergeants Major. It makes you "Noticed" and never more a "Gray Man" shall you be.
"Roger That" is not considered "The Last Word In".
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10-11-2007, 07:37
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...I have learned a lot today...
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We beg to differ. What about, "DON'T REPLY" did you not understand? I meant exactly what I said.
Your career in SF will be short lived unless you figure out how to STFU. This isn't the place to play games or tit-for-tat. You will find yourself on the losing end every time.
Now, go PT.
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10-11-2007, 08:29
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Originally Posted by Sign me up
Something clicked in my head. I GET it now. No more posting for me, ever. I'm here to learn.
You're probably thinking "oh god, he posted AGAIN!" when reading this. Just realize that this is sincere, and rather than leaving this thread to die, I have to fully apologize for everything that has happened and leave on a good note.
I see what this is all about now. Thank you for your patience, as I have learned a lot today. Wish me luck,
-SMU
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S'up:
IF you ever make it into the US military, people are going to tell you to do a lot of things that you may not like. Some of them may even involve putting your life at risk.
Rather than be a Generation Why (or Whine) problem to your leaders, you must learn to quit trying to be the center of attention, constantly asking for things, and to shut up, roger up, and cowboy up.
When the Tac tells you to be on the road in front of the gate in 5 minutes, jocked up, with 50 pounds in your ruck, he does not need to hear anything from you but "Roger".
If your Team Sergeant tells you to get on the .50 right now and put suppressive fire on the enemy up the hill, it is not time for a conversation or questions. STFU and get on it.
People who like to ask excessive questions or talk too much are not going to be making it into SF. Remember the Duke's advice: "Talk low, talk slow, and don't talk too much."
The attitude you are displaying right now is narcissistic, insecure, immature, and will cause you to have trouble with Basic Training, much less the SFQC.
Honor your promise to refrain from posting for a while, and you will find that you learn more with your mouth closed than with it open. Listen to what the guys who are what you want to be are telling you.
A reply to this is neither necessary, nor desired.
Good luck, and have a very SF day.
TR
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