The "Religion of Peace" Strikes Again

**The Reaper** · 08-04-2007, 10:08

I'm just glad that it was not from the other end of the extremist spectrum.

Would this constitute a "hate crime"?

TR

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,292090,00.html

Cops Link Black Muslim Group to Editor's Murder
Friday , August 03, 2007

OAKLAND, Calif. —

Police said they recovered firearms linked to the slaying of an Oakland journalist during a series of early morning raids Friday targeting members of a Black Muslim splinter group that operates a chain of bakeries.

Colleagues said Oakland Post editor Chauncey Bailey, 57, had been working on a story about Your Black Muslim Bakery before he was ambushed and slain Thursday morning near the Alameda County courthouse in downtown Oakland.

Before dawn, officers raided the Muslim group's headquarters at the original bakery on San Pablo Avenue, as well as three houses in Oakland. They arrested seven people on charges including homicide, robbery and assault, including the son of the group's founder, but it was unclear if any of those charges were tied to Bailey's slaying.

"The search warrant yielded several weapons and other evidence of value including evidence linking the murder of Chauncey Bailey to members of the Your Black Muslim Bakery," said Assistant Police Chief Howard Jordan, who said the raids were part of a yearlong investigation into a variety of violent crimes.

Homicide detective Lt. Ersie Joyner said "scientific evidence" had linked the firearms to Bailey's killing.

Joseph Debro, an Oakland businessman who writes a column for the Post, said Bailey had recently asked him for information about Your Black Muslim Bakery's financial troubles for a story Bailey was writing.

"To him it was just another story," Debro said. "He wasn't apprehensive or anxious about it at all. He said he was working on a bunch of stories and this was one."

Your Black Muslim Bakery was founded in 1968 by the late Yusuf Bey as a haven for struggling urban families. It sells natural baked goods alongside books by Malcolm X and other black leaders.

Bailey was a longtime reporter for the Oakland Tribune before becoming editor of the Post, a weekly newspaper geared toward the Bay Area black community, earlier this year.

He had written stories for the Tribune about the bakery and its founder when Bey was facing rape charges in Alameda County. Most of those charges were later dropped, although one was still pending when Bey died in 2003.

Bey's son, Yusuf Bey IV, who was in custody Friday, took over the original bakery and several franchises. In 2005, he was accused by police of being the ringleader in a group of black Muslims who smashed liquor bottles in Oakland corner stores and berated the Muslim owners for selling alcohol to the black community, because alcohol is forbidden by Islam.

Your Black Muslim bakery has been plagued with financial problems for several years, culminating in a bankruptcy filing last October.

In a declaration filed with the bankruptcy court on June 29, Yusuf Bey IV conceded he was "inexperienced in the business world," and had "received advice and consultation from those who had proven to me they did not have my best interests at heart."

Guy · 08-04-2007, 11:05

Its been awhile since I've pissed off a member from the NOI...

Hey brother...we should go back too the mother-land!

Me: FUCK-OFF! I've been there and it SUCKED!

Why you gotta be like that?

Me: It's 10AM and your ass is standing on a milk-crate, preaching about some place you ain't never been too...go get a "fuckin" job!

Stay safe.

dmgedgoods · 08-04-2007, 14:58

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Guy · 08-04-2007, 16:07

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Originally Posted by dmgedgoods

A crime like this, perpetrated by people like that does not surprise me for the area.

"Religion of Peace"....more like a "Religion of Rape, Robbery, and Narcotics", at least in Oakland.

It is interesting the kind of people Islam attracts to its ranks.

McD

Just say this...

"Everbody raise your hand, that have NOT served time in prison..."

nmap · 08-04-2007, 17:35

Let's see now.

We have a demonstrably violent subgroup within the U.S. They engage in aggressive behavior based on their religious beliefs (i.e., from the article, they smashed liquor bottles and berated store owners), and now some evidence seems to suggest they are involved in murder.

Does that sound like a potential "fifth column"? (No, I don't really want to go there. But I cannot help but wonder.)

sg1987 · 08-04-2007, 18:11

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Originally Posted by nmap

... and now some evidence seems to suggest they are involved in murder.

Not a new M.O....ask Mr. Malcolm Little.

JMI · 08-05-2007, 07:41

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Originally Posted by Guy

Just say this...

"Everbody raise your hand, that have NOT served time in prison..."

That is where they recruit.

Guy · 08-05-2007, 13:41

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Originally Posted by JMI

That is where they recruit.

One of my come-backs when they try that with me is...

"You learned all that in prison or jail?"

Stay safe.

Ret10Echo · 11-25-2008, 07:52

Afghan acid attackers to be punished Reuters KANDAHAR, Afghanistan –

Afghan police have arrested 10 Taliban militants involved in an acid attack this month against 15 girls and teachers walking to school in southern Afghanistan, a provincial governor said Tuesday.

"Several" of the arrested militants have confessed to taking part in the acid attack, said Kandahar Gov. Rahmatullah Raufi. He declined to say exactly how many confessed.

High-ranking Taliban fighters paid the militants a total of $2,000 to carry out the attack, Raufi said. The attackers came from Pakistan but were Afghan nationals, said Doud Doud, an Interior Ministry official.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081125/...afghanistan_30

Ret10Echo · 06-08-2009, 11:38

Somali rage at grave desecration

By Mohamed Mohamed
BBC Somali Service

Since they began to capture large swathes of southern Somalia, radical Islamists have been undertaking a programme of destroying mosques and the graves of revered religious leaders from the Sufi branch of Islam.

The destruction of non-approved religious sites started last year when they began to knock down an old colonial era church in the town of Kismayo.

Most Somalis are Sufi Muslims, who do not share the strict Saudi Arabian-inspired Wahhabi interpretation of Islam with the hardline al-Shabab group.

They embrace music, dancing and meditation and are appalled at the desecration of the graves.

But al-Shabab sees things differently.

The group's spokesman in the town of Kismayo, Sheikh Hassan Yaquub, told the BBC Somali Service that his movement considered that the memorials were being worshipped and that this was idolatry - banned by Islam.

"The destruction of graves is not something new: we target graves that are overdecorated and ones used for misleading people.

"We are not aiming at the sheikhs [religious leaders] and their standing in the society, but it is forbidden to make graves into shrines," Mr Yaquub said.

Mosques closed

Grave are being desecrated wherever al-Shabab is in control.

The town of Brave is home to a number of minority groups.

Among them are the Sufi Bravenese, a Bantu group who speak a language unique to their town called Chimbalazi, similar to Swahili.

Many of the graves of their religious leaders have been attacked.

Graveyard caretakers have been arrested and told not to go back to work.

The disappointment and sadness of this community has reached beyond Somalia.

"The people of Brave feel the desecrations of graves are actions against humanity," said Mohamed Sheikh, a Bravenese community leader in Manchester in the north-west of England.

"The Islamists closed the mosques and said no-one could pray at the ones near graveyards - arguing that the prayers performed there could not be proper prayers and would amount to worshiping the graves themselves.

"These people [he avoids mentioning al-Shabab by name] cannot teach us about Islam. Islam reached Brave and all the coastal areas when the religion arrived in East Africa 1,250 to 1,300 years ago.

"The living person can at least defend himself, but the dead cannot. The spirits of the dead deserve respect. Even when we walk near graves we walk slowly, because while the bodies are dead, the spirit is not. Destroying graves is despicable."

Fighting back

There is evidence that the anger is stirring the usually peaceful Sufis to take up arms and fight back against al-Shabab.

The umbrella group Ahlu Sunnah Wal Jama (Sufi Sects in Somalia) has condemned the actions of what they call the ideology of modern Wahhabism and the desecrations of graves.

They see Wahhabism as foreign and ultimately un-Islamic.

Wahhabism is a branch of Sunni Islam dominant in Saudi Arabia.

It preaches a more literal interpretation of Islam and condemns innovations in Islam and rituals.

It is at the opposite end of the spectrum of Islam to Sufism.

"These radical groups shed Muslim blood every day and they dig out and desecrate our graves. They are funded from outside and their Wahhabi ideology is foreign and must be dealt with," says the group's spokesman Abdirasak Mohamed Al Ash'ari.

The group has now joined forces with the embattled government of President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, a moderate Islamist, against al-Shabab.

Ahlu Sunnah Wal Jama now controls much of the Galgadud Region in Central Somalia after they defeated al-Shabab in a number of battles.

In one of their battles they managed to kill a senior al-Shabab leader.

By antagonising the Sufi groups, al-Shabab may have gone too far.

**Box** · 06-08-2009, 20:56

stand down....

...maybe they were just trying to use the money to pay 'Zakat'

I need all the facts before I can get upset.

D9 (RIP) · 06-09-2009, 15:16

I'm not at all surprised.

I haven't seen this story in the mainstream media. I'm trying to imagine the national media hysteria that would erupt if white supremacists murdered someone from the media to suppress a story - I'm pretty sure it would be the leading story across the country. Of course, it fits in well with the Civil Rightsy self-image of the American media - the self-idealized enlightened elite who bent down to help push the boot heel of white oppression off the brotherman's throat. Yeah, if it were a white supremacist group it would've fit right into their template, complete with sociological case studies of regressive whites whose inferiority complexes are turning them to violence in the wake of the Obama election.

The low level of media coverage this has been given (I haven't seen it on the Prime Time News at all this week) says a lot about how they stumble when events occur that are incongruent with their ideology.

Sorry to hear the guy was killed. I hope they are more serious about prosecuting these guys than they were about those dudes in BDUs with clubs that were filmed outside the voting center.