04-26-2004, 15:32
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To Serrate Or Not Serrate?
What do you folks think of serrated edges on knives? Partial serrations at base of blade? All serrations or none at all? Do these have real use in the field?
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04-26-2004, 15:42
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I have never used them, although I have had several knives with serrated blades. I can take it or leave it and its not a feature I really consider when selecting a knife.
All other features being equal, I would opt for non-serrated.
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04-26-2004, 15:59
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Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
I have never used them, although I have had several knives with serrated blades. I can take it or leave it and its not a feature I really consider when selecting a knife.
All other features being equal, I would opt for non-serrated.
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I would opt for the Serations. The first time I used a Spyderco Police Model seriously, it was Field Dressing a Mule Deer. I got to the stage where I needed to open up the chest cavity, put the blade at the bottom of the sternum and fully expected to have to "saw" my way up. It went Ziiipppp!!! It opened it up like it had a zipper !! The serations make for a "Hungry" Blade !!!
I was told, by someone that I trust, that he had won several "Bar Bets" cutting a piece of 1/4" Iron Water Pipe in half with a Police Model. He said that it "Smoked" the Blade, but what he won bought several. I've got one that's about had it, may make a test case out of it.
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04-26-2004, 16:11
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My "work" Knife is a Police Model with full serrated blade. I love it, it cuts through everything i need it to cut through and I can go a long time without sharpening; just use the serrations a little further back on the blade if the section you are using is dull. I like a straight blade for some things, but overall the majority of my carry knives have been serrated.
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04-26-2004, 16:12
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Serrated for me. While a serrated edge if hard to beat when cutting thru webbing, rope, clothing they are a royal pain in the arse to sharpen. Its not that its all that difficult, but very time consuming. I liken it to manually sharpening a chainsaw blade, a task I am sure you can appreciate/ despise Mr. Harsey.
I like Spiderco myself. Not because they are the best, but because they are affordable and if I lose it I am not going to kick my own ass.
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04-26-2004, 16:37
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The only time I really hate sharpening a saw is when I watch sparks coming off the end of the bar because the saw is having a hard time getting thru that rock on the far side of the log.
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04-26-2004, 16:45
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Quote:
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While a serrated edge if hard to beat when cutting thru webbing, rope, clothing they are a royal pain in the arse to sharpen.
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Crip,
Try a Lansky's with a Wedge Shaped "Serated Blade" Ceramic Stone. It makes it a pleasure and as long as you remember, or write down, what angle you used, it's a snap.
Take care.
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04-26-2004, 16:50
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Quote:
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The only time I really hate sharpening a saw is when I watch sparks coming off the end of the bar because the saw is having a hard time getting thru that rock on the far side of the log.
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LMMFAO!!
I can see that happening. BTDT.
TR
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04-26-2004, 17:24
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ambush Master
Crip,
Try a Lansky's with a Wedge Shaped "Serated Blade" Ceramic Stone. It makes it a pleasure and as long as you remember, or write down, what angle you used, it's a snap.
Take care.
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Thank you AM. I will pick one up.
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04-26-2004, 17:49
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THANKS! All is noted, keep 'em coming. You guys are influencing product design as we speak. No wrong answers, This is not a test.
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04-26-2004, 18:50
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Definitly at least a third of the blade serrated. Better to have it and not need it, than to not have at all IMO.
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04-26-2004, 19:01
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Serrations, just an inch or two, for cutting webbing, seatbelts, air items, etc.
Would have to try the chisel Vs. pointed "Spyderedge" type for efficacy. Or you could just tell us, Sir William, Jr.
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04-26-2004, 19:08
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I don't like serrated blades. Guess I'm with NDD on this. If I need a saw, I use a saw (my Model 14 does have a saw back though).
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04-26-2004, 19:10
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Ounces make pounds.
If I can have a knife that does two things just as well two different tools, I'll take the knife with serrations any day of the week.
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04-26-2004, 20:08
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I like a bit of serration on mine. I think a fully-serrated blade has its place, but in an everyday/carry folder, it's unnecessary: you don't need more than an inch of serration to cut through (almost) any cordage you need to, and that's the primary use for a serrated blade that I've found.
That said, I think you also need to consider type of serration, too (as I'm sure you already are, Mr. Harsey). For example, the serration on a Spyderco, IMO, is about ideal; what I carry now (a Cold Steel Voyager) has served me well, but I curse the serrations all the time, as Cold Steel serrations (for some unknown reason that mar an otherwise fine, inexpensive knife) have itty-bitty tiny teeth that break off near instantly (I can't bear to retire the ol' boy, though). 
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