07-10-2007, 17:49
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Warrior Ethos
Anybody know who wrote that? I like it.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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07-10-2007, 18:01
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http://stinet.dtic.mil/oai/oai?&verb...fier=ADA366676
by: Buckingham, David W
Sir, I don't know if this is what You're looking for, but this is one.
Holly
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07-11-2007, 00:04
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There is no single writer of the Warrior Ethos.
General Peter Schoomaker in 2003, was angered by the fact the many Soldiers in Iraq were considering themselves just as support Soldiers (Personnel, Supply, Mechanics, etc.). So HQDA sent out an ALATRACT to TRADOC, they got all the CATC powers that be together and rewrote the original Soldiers creed:
“I am an American soldier . . . No matter what situation I am in, I will never do anything for pleasure, profit or personal safety, which will disgrace my uniform. I will use every means I have, even beyond the line of duty, to restrain my army comrades from actions disgraceful to themselves and the uniform.”
And now we have our wonderful Creed and Ethos.
Rob
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07-13-2007, 13:03
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“I am an American soldier . . . No matter what situation I am in, I will never do anything for pleasure, profit or personal safety, which will disgrace my uniform. I will use every means I have, even beyond the line of duty, to restrain my army comrades from actions disgraceful to themselves and the uniform.”
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Well the new creed or whatever this is sucks.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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07-13-2007, 13:11
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Is this the "new" creed?
I WILL ALWAYS PLACE MY MISSION FIRST!
I WILL NEVER ACCEPT DEFEAT!
I WILL NEVER QUIT!
I WILL NEVER LEAVE A FALLEN COMRADE!
Stay safe.
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07-13-2007, 15:31
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Here's the whole thing:
I am an American Soldier. I am a Warrior and a member of a team. I serve the people of the United States and live the Army Values.
I will always place the mission first.
I will never accept defeat.
I will never quit.
I will never leave a fallen comrade.
I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in
my warrior tasks and drills.
I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.
I am an expert and I am a professional.
I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the
United States of America in close combat.
I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.
I am an American Soldier.
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"Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave whither Thou goest." - Ecclesiastes 9:10
"If simple folk are free from care and fear, simple they will be, and we must be secret to keep them so." - JRRT
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07-13-2007, 15:44
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Can we make our politicians take that oath as well?
Ahh, they seem to ignore the one they swore to already, why make 'em have to lie twice. 
TR
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07-13-2007, 15:52
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For some reason Toby Keith's "American Soldier" just came to mind.
Does this mean that the Rangers have two creeds to memorize ? Nothing like a PL having to stay in the barracks over the weekend to pulverize another creed into a "cherry's" head. 
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07-13-2007, 21:14
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Originally Posted by 82ndtrooper
Does this mean that the Rangers have two creeds to memorize ?
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All new recruits have the Soldier's Creed drilled into their heads during BCT.
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"Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave whither Thou goest." - Ecclesiastes 9:10
"If simple folk are free from care and fear, simple they will be, and we must be secret to keep them so." - JRRT
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07-14-2007, 06:42
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At some point during any class now in TRADOC the mention of the creed and at least one of the Army values is supposed to occur. So if you're teaching how to write an OPORD you've got to mention how it ties into the Warrior Ethos and one of the Army Values.
I've been pulled off to the side for having forgotten more than a few times.
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07-14-2007, 07:12
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Once upon a time, we were running a training exercise for three Latin American nations at Ft. Chaffee.
General McCaffrey hauls us in and asks us where is our human rights training.
We told him that every day, in every class and scenario, the conduct of American SF soldiers demonstrated the vaules of human rights in a freely elected democratic society. We also mentioned that treating the counterparts with dignity and respect as equals was far more valuable than hammering them over the head with a list of things to not do.
Six hours later, with TV cameras rolling, we started the first of three two hour blocks of mandatory human rights classroom lectures during the previously scheduled free time. McCaffrey chose that opportunity to ask if any of the Latins could sing or dance to entertain his guests at a dinner he was hosting for the media.
I believe I was asked to leave the discussion when I made the observation that the troops were not there to put on a minstrel show for his royal highness, the CINC, USSOUTHCOM, and that this conflicted with the Army Values that we were trying to teach them.
I feel your pain, brother.
TR
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910
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07-22-2007, 09:40
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I believe I was asked to leave the discussion when I made the observation that the troops were not there to put on a minstrel show for his royal highness, the CINC, USSOUTHCOM, and that this conflicted with the Army Values that we were trying to teach them.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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