06-30-2007, 15:03
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Congress Votes to Outsource Presidency Options
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06-30-2007, 16:07
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 Sounds like a plan!
Now about those corporate CEOs that pull down $100,000,000 per year plus benefits and a corporate jet...while the shareholders get scraps...
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06-30-2007, 16:35
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Looks to me like it was written by another President Bush hater. 
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06-30-2007, 17:08
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How About movie stars & ....
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Sounds like a plan!
Now about those corporate CEOs that pull down $100,000,000 per year plus benefits and a corporate jet...while the shareholders get scraps... |
How about those movie stars that pull down 20 million for a movie while the extras get scraps and have to wait on tables to make a living?
How about Banks pulling down twice as much profit margins as "BIG OIL"?
Lots of people view what others have and want things to be "Fair". They want government step in and level the playing field. Try to make things fair and the road starts to get real slick with a deep ditch on each side. Try to tinker too much and you start playing Whack-a-Mole with all the problems caused by your tinkering.
Hmmm- maybe we should outsource congress and cut down on new laws?
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06-30-2007, 17:13
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Looks to me like it was written by another President Bush hater.
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06-30-2007, 18:42
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How about those movie stars that pull down 20 million for a movie while the extras get scraps and have to wait on tables to make a living?
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Interesting that you should say that. Some of the new graphics technology seems to be taking us to a point where human actors can be supplanted by convincing animations. There are problems - skin texture seems like plastic instead of real skin, and strands of hair are difficult to deal with, since each hair needs to be animated as a distinct object. That said, computers are getting faster - so both the stars and the extras may wind up waiting tables.
As communications become cheaper and faster, as computers become faster, and as AI develops, the issue will become more challenging. Companies have an obligation to shareholders to minimize costs - but that can have political consequences. Global labor arbitrage will tend to equalize wages around the world - so as wages in India increase, those in the U.S. will trend down due to supply and demand.
The political and economic consequences of all this are fairly sure to be interesting. Perhaps even profitable, if one guesses correctly.
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Given the current approval levels, you just might win a campaign for President with such a proposal. I'd be honored to vote for you!
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06-30-2007, 19:39
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Interesting that you should say that. Some of the new graphics technology seems to be taking us to a point where human actors can be supplanted by convincing animations. There are problems - skin texture seems like plastic instead of real skin, and strands of hair are difficult to deal with, since each hair needs to be animated as a distinct object. That said, computers are getting faster - so both the stars and the extras may wind up waiting tables.
As communications become cheaper and faster, as computers become faster, and as AI develops, the issue will become more challenging. Companies have an obligation to shareholders to minimize costs - but that can have political consequences. Global labor arbitrage will tend to equalize wages around the world - so as wages in India increase, those in the U.S. will trend down due to supply and demand.
The political and economic consequences of all this are fairly sure to be interesting. Perhaps even profitable, if one guesses correctly.
Given the current approval levels, you just might win a campaign for President with such a proposal. I'd be honored to vote for you!
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Most of them are better Actors then extras. Most do work hard to get where they are and increase ticket sales. So they deserve the money. The extra who stands around and works less should get paid less.
No matter how good animation gets. Nothing beats a movie packed full of talented Actors like the Departed for example. Besides how else can we see Martin Sheen thrown off a roof 
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06-30-2007, 20:59
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Besides how else can we see Martin Sheen thrown off a roof |
Come to my house and bring that SOB with you.
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06-30-2007, 21:07
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Come to my house and bring that SOB with you.
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Do you have a ranch or two story house ? 
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06-30-2007, 21:19
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Do you have a ranch or two story house ? |
Two, with a concrete driveway under the highest peak. A window is there as well if we don't feel like climbing, he can always just go from there head first.
I'll have the kids go down and bust some bottles and drag up some steel scrap and cinder blocks, if you call a few minutes out. No trouble at all.
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06-30-2007, 22:22
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Two, with a concrete driveway under the highest peak. A window is there as well if we don't feel like climbing, he can always just go from there head first.
I'll have the kids go down and bust some bottles and drag up some steel scrap and cinder blocks, if you call a few minutes out. No trouble at all.
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06-30-2007, 22:32
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So same treatment if Babs, Alec and Susan can be convinced to show up?
I'm just going to keep reminding myself never to piss you all off. 
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06-30-2007, 22:44
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No matter how good animation gets. Nothing beats a movie packed full of talented Actors like the Departed for example. Besides how else can we see Martin Sheen thrown off a roof |
It seems that I've ignored the human factor. That's always been one of my failings.
Sometimes even the best simulations don't equal the real thing.
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07-01-2007, 08:20
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So same treatment if Babs, Alec and Susan can be convinced to show up?
I'm just going to keep reminding myself never to piss you all off.
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Shar,
I would pay money to attend this festival, and if they need music, a few calls could be made...Nugent anyone? 
I am right with you on never wanting to get under "Their" skin. Yikes!
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07-01-2007, 16:18
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Ted Nugent
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Shar,
I would pay money to attend this festival, and if they need music, a few calls could be made...Nugent anyone?
I am right with you on never wanting to get under "Their" skin. Yikes!
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I spoke with Ted. He asked if he could bring his guitar, band and back up singers, but his compound bow as well ?
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