06-08-2007, 10:50
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Navy Takes Over Military
Looks like the Navy has almost all of the leadership positions.
Glad to see that they are the warfighters now.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,279492,00.html
Gen. Peter Pace to Retire as Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman
Friday , June 08, 2007
WASHINGTON — Marine Gen. Peter Pace will retire as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced on Friday.
Gates said while he intended to renominate Pace for another two-year term as chairman, after consulting with congressional leaders, the confirmation hearing was likely to be "a backward-looking and very contentious process."
"The focus of his confirmation process would have been on the past, rather than the future," Gates said at a press conference at the Pentagon.
Instead, Gates he will recommend that President Bush nominate Adm. Mike Mullen, chief of naval operations, as the next chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
"I think Admiral Mullen will bring a tremendous perspective," Gates said.
Pace began his term in September 2005 as one of the nation's top two military leaders. Pace serves as principal military adviser to the president, Gates, the National Security Council and the Homeland Security Council. Pace is the first Marine to serve as chairman.
Bush, in Poland after the close of the Group of Eight summit, thanked Pace for his service the past six years.
"President Bush appreciates General Pace's long and distinguished service to the country. He is an example for all our men and women in uniform and has been an integral part of the President's national security team," White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said.
Pace has been either chairman or vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs for the past six years.
Pace, a Vietnam War veteran, will turn 62 in November. He will leave his post when his term ends on Sept. 30, 2007.
FOX News' Bret Baier contributed to this report.
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06-08-2007, 14:32
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To summarize from the other thread...
The Navy has SOCOM, PACOM, CENTCOM, SOUTHCOM, SOCEUR
The Army has EUCOM, SOCSOUTH, SOCPAC, SOCCENT
The Air Force has JFCOM and NORTHCOM
Unless any of this changed in the last few weeks and I missed it.
All the games in town are on the ground and we have nautical coaches in charge. Granted I was only an enlisted guy, but I don't understand this at all.
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06-08-2007, 14:41
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STRATCOM Commander is a Marine...figure that one out.
This is somewhat tangential, but might be interesting. The DNI is USN(R) and of the intel community's big four, all the directors are active duty military.
CIA - USAF
NGA - USN
DIA - USA
NSA - USA
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06-08-2007, 14:42
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Originally Posted by Snaquebite
To summarize from the other thread...
The Navy has SOCOM, PACOM, CENTCOM, SOUTHCOM, SOCEUR
The Army has EUCOM, SOCSOUTH, SOCPAC, SOCCENT
The Air Force has JFCOM and NORTHCOM
Unless any of this changed in the last few weeks and I missed it.
All the games in town are on the ground and we have nautical coaches in charge. Granted I was only an enlisted guy, but I don't understand this at all.
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The SOCs are subordinate commands and do not count. Unless you want to bemoan the fact that so few are commanded by white side SF guys.
The Navy has, or will soon have CJCS, SOCOM, PACOM, CENTCOM, SOUTHCOM.
The Air Force has TRANSCOM, STRATCOM, SPACECOM, JFCOM, and NORTHCOM.
The Army has EUCOM.
And we are fighting an almost exclusively ground war.
You figure it out. 
News flash:
The new Vice Chairman will be a Marine. Maybe the next Chief of Staff, Army will be a Marine as well. Not an Army guy within striking range of the top. I wonder if recent comments about the quality of Army leadership are not hitting home.
TR
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06-08-2007, 14:45
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TR, Thanks for the correction....I know SOCs are subordinate...however, I was trying to list them all.
I can't figure it out... 
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06-08-2007, 14:47
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To help those that don't understand the alphabet soup above:
Navy - 4 4-star ranks, 1 1-star
Army - 1 4-star, 3 1-stars
Air Force - 2 4-stars
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06-08-2007, 14:57
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To help those that don't understand the alphabet soup above:
Navy - 4 4-star ranks, 1 1-star
Army - 1 4-star, 3 1-stars
Air Force - 2 4-stars
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Got it....So....
USA + USAF - USMC = USN
Now I understand. Damn that was so simple. 
Sorry to make light of it but what else can I do? Seems we're getting deeper and deeper.
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06-08-2007, 15:00
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And LTG Boykin retired today.
At least GEN Schoomaker, GEN Cody, et al came to see him off.
I think our bench is getting pretty shallow.
TR
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06-08-2007, 15:14
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
And LTG Boykin retired today.
At least GEN Schoomaker, GEN Cody, et al came to see him off.
I think our bench is getting pretty shallow.
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Any story printed on the retirement --- I can't find one
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06-08-2007, 15:56
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TR,
Any story printed on the retirement --- I can't find one
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Probably in tomorrow's Fayetteville Observer.
I doubt that he solicited media attendance, though some were there and were recognized.
TR
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06-08-2007, 16:36
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TR,
Any story printed on the retirement --- I can't find one
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Nothing printed yet - did find this photo from today....I'd sure like to have heard what he had to say!
http://news.soc.mil/
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06-08-2007, 16:36
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Glad to see that they (Navy) are the warfighters now.
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I'm curious - Why?
Could it be that we're preparing for an air and sea assault on Iran? - And, that we're simply putting things in order?
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06-08-2007, 16:55
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Originally Posted by 3SoldierDad
I'm curious - Why?
Could it be that we're preparing for an air and sea assault on Iran? - And, that we're simply putting things in order?
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I like it, an optimist!
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06-08-2007, 18:15
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Originally Posted by Snaquebite
To summarize from the other thread...
The Navy has SOCOM, PACOM, CENTCOM, SOUTHCOM, SOCEUR
The Army has EUCOM, SOCSOUTH, SOCPAC, SOCCENT
The Air Force has JFCOM and NORTHCOM
Unless any of this changed in the last few weeks and I missed it.
All the games in town are on the ground and we have nautical coaches in charge. Granted I was only an enlisted guy, but I don't understand this at all.
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I don't either!
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06-08-2007, 18:58
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I'm curious - Why?
Could it be that we're preparing for an air and sea assault on Iran? - And, that we're simply putting things in order?
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nope...probably because some bean counter thinks it's their turn...
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