Moscow Idaho shooting.

JGarcia · 05-24-2007, 11:42

Thought this was interesting, you might enjoy it.

News Story

82ndtrooper · 05-24-2007, 12:52

From the legality perspective I'm pretty certain I would not ride my bike 5 blocks with a handgun in hand.

1. Does he currently hold a carry concealed permit ?

2. If not what is the legality of traveling one half mile on bike with an open carry condition of the firearm ? (I'm thinking outloud here)

3. His SA was zilch. Where was the firing coming from ? muzzles flashes would have been an decent indicator. Many other factors also would make this difficult. (Other hero with firearm is mistaken for bad guy, etc, etc,)

I agree with him, "more people should step up" but possibly not in the manner in which he did "step up"

He may have saved lives by simply taking the 4 shots that he did. At the very least this wannabee sniper was locked on him and not others.

I'm just not sure this is the most suitable way to act in "defense of another"

Just my .02

Air.177 · 05-24-2007, 12:57

Do Something, Even if it's wrong.

Five-O · 05-24-2007, 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by 82ndtrooper

From the legality perspective I'm pretty certain I would not ride my bike 5 blocks with a handgun in hand.

1. Does he currently hold a carry concealed permit ?

2. If not what is the legality of traveling one half mile on bike with an open carry condition of the firearm ? (I'm thinking outloud here)

3. His SA was zilch. Where was the firing coming from ? muzzles flashes would have been an decent indicator. Many other factors also would make this difficult. (Other hero with firearm is mistaken for bad guy, etc, etc,)

I agree with him, "more people should step up" but possibly not in the manner in which he did "step up"

He may have saved lives by simply taking the 4 shots that he did. At the very least this wannabee sniper was locked on him and not others.

I'm just not sure this is the most suitable way to act in "defense of another"

Just my .02

82ndtrpr,
Behind the safety of a computer it's easy to second guess and Monday morning quarterback a 20 year old who made an on the spot decision to do what he thought was the right thing. Does not sound as if he has had any tactical training which would explain walking into a buzzsaw. I think the kid's a stud and when he turns 21 I'll buy him a beer. Well done and here is to a speedy recovery. BTW there is not a prosecutor in America who would charge him with even jay-walkiing....well maybe in Durham

82ndtrooper · 05-24-2007, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Five-O

Behind the safety of a computer it's easy to second guess and Monday morning quarterback a 20 year old who made an on the spot decision to do what he thought was the right thing. Does not sound as if he has had any tactical training which would explain walking into a buzzsaw. I think the kid's a stud and when he turns 21 I'll buy him a beer. Well done and here is to a speedy recovery.

You buy him a beer and I'll pay for his instuction at Ayoobs LFI-1 course

aricbcool · 05-24-2007, 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by 82ndtrooper

2. If not what is the legality of traveling one half mile on bike with an open carry condition of the firearm ? (I'm thinking outloud here)

Open carry is legal here. However, U of I may have restrictions on that as it is a school.

--Aric

JGarcia · 05-24-2007, 15:26

When I was reading it, I had this mental picture of the guy riding his bicycle down the street wearing flip flops, toting a pistol, and on his way to a gunfight against a rifle. Just like that. He had absolutely no fear, just a boat load of ignorant invincibility, and pissed off that someone would do this at his school.

That's why we need the 19 year old infantrymen, in his mind, he is invincible.

This kid wins major cool points, but man.... I just can't believe he would jump in feet first, in the untrained condition that he is.

abc_123 · 05-24-2007, 17:39

Reporter: "Knowing what you know now, would you do it all over again?"

19yr old Stud laying in the hospital after sucking down 4 bullets and almost bleeding out in the street: "Yeah, absolutely. I do it a little different so I wouldn't be shot, but in that situation, yes,"... "I wish I could have shot him myself. People need to step up more, people turn their head too often."

that's some great stuff.

Defender968 · 05-24-2007, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Five-O

Behind the safety of a computer it's easy to second guess and Monday morning quarterback a 20 year old who made an on the spot decision to do what he thought was the right thing. Does not sound as if he has had any tactical training which would explain walking into a buzzsaw. I think the kid's a stud and when he turns 21 I'll buy him a beer. Well done and here is to a speedy recovery. BTW there is not a prosecutor in America who would charge him with even jay-walkiing....well maybe in Durham

I completely agree, not only isn't there a prosecutor in America who would charge him except in Durham, but no decent cop would arrest him for it anything either. He did take a risk, the possibility of being thought a second bad guy, but many folks make that conscious decision every day, I know that’s a possibility every day I’m off duty but toting in civilian clothes. Glad to see folks are realizing it’s up to them to protect themselves as there aren’t enough police to be everywhere, I hope this kid makes a full recovery.

Sionnach · 05-25-2007, 05:17

This kid is a stud.

Matta mile · 05-25-2007, 18:21

The kid made a brave decision and stuck with it. I am sure that a five block ride would have tempted a lessor man to deviate from his goal.
Even though his actions may qualify him for some testosterone management training, I think he did a great thing which is hopefully construed as a solid example for his peers and all others.
MM

Maytime · 05-26-2007, 00:42

The guy who was shot, Pete Hussman, was a mentor for one of my engineering classes who happened to be in the wrong place at the right time. He is a great guy and I hope he has a speedy recovery. I attended the memorial for the fallen Moscow Police officer, Lee Newbill, today. He was a retired Army officer; went from being a company commander in the Armor Corps before becoming a Moscow Police officer. RIP Officer Newbill.

I live not two blocks from where this shit happened, but I happened to be in Alaska when it occured. Good or bad luck, I do not know.