04-04-2007, 14:46
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Libs Are Insane Pt 1 Tacoma
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/...protest03.html
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
TACOMA -- Tacoma police say last month's 12-day anti-war protests cost the city an unbudgeted $500,000 to provide a large-scale law enforcement presence.
The rough estimate covers overtime, regular compensation, equipment and food for hundreds of workers from Tacoma police and other agencies, Assistant Chief Bob Sheehan said.
The city plans to ask the Port of Tacoma and the military to cover some of the costs.
"That's a tremendous hit on our budget -- a half-million dollars of unexpected expense," said Tacoma Mayor Bill Baarsma, adding that the military would get the first invoice.
"I think our request is justifiable," Baarsma said. "I would expect that we would be reimbursed. I would be surprised if we weren't."
Police increased law enforcement at the Port of Tacoma during the convoying and storage of Army Stryker vehicles from March 3 until a ship carrying the military equipment left for Iraq on March 14.
Protesters were there each night.
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04-04-2007, 14:50
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Bill the protester and the organizations that support the anti war, anti-military
dirt bags.
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04-04-2007, 14:55
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When I told an old friend from High School that I was going to be stationed at Fort Lewis, WA. He asked, "Do we have a military base there to keep the hippies and liberals in check?" Sadly, the only fitting response seemed to be, "Yes."
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04-04-2007, 15:01
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Bill the protester and the organizations that support the anti war, anti-military dirt bags. Jim
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Agreed Sir! When "they" come 'round here..."they" are great for paintball practice! Should see the faces when suddenly covered in green paint!
Drop 'em all in A-stan. my little .02
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04-04-2007, 15:27
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What ?
Let me get this straight. He wants to be reimbursed for services that should be offered as part of the departments sworn duty ? We are at time of war, and men and women are dying for the freedoms that Americans are afforded, and he wants to be reimbursed for over time, and added police security ?
Funny, since he's forgetting the economic impact of having a Naval Base and Army Base in his backyard. If the bases packed up and went away, his town of Tacoma would flourish as a wild over grown field. Would private industry be enough in Tacoma to sustain their current level of living ?
I'm just not sure I understand the line of thinking, maybe it say's more about me than him.
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04-04-2007, 16:36
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Wonder who they bill for all their other protest "OT".  Unbelievable.
Send it to George Soros...
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04-04-2007, 17:46
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I don't want to leave Mr. Harsey alone with all the hippies, but I'll bet Alabama or Mississippi would love to have the military units currently stationed in Washington. I doubt the city of Mobile would mind paying overtime... of course, except for a few college towns and Atlanta, we don't have much in the way of hippies in the bottom half of Dixie.
Perhaps the city should instead invoice ANSWER, MoveOn.org, and the American Communist/Socialist/Democratic Party. Better yet, the Army should invoice the city of Tacoma for the extra time it took to load the vehicles due to the protesters.
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04-04-2007, 18:02
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The city plans to ask the Port of Tacoma and the military to cover some of the costs.
That's a tremendous hit on our budget -- a half-million dollars of unexpected expense," said Tacoma Mayor Bill Baarsma, adding that the military would get the first invoice.
Protesters were there each night.
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Why not arrest the protesters on the first night, and bill them individually while suing their organizations for the overtime?
TR
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04-04-2007, 18:18
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Why not arrest the protesters on the first night, and bill them individually while suing their organizations for the overtime?
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Sir,
Just one American civie here... but AGREED!
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04-04-2007, 18:42
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move the posts to alaska, we'll take em as well.
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04-05-2007, 09:12
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Un-fookin believable.
We've watched this stuff develop for many years around here. Anti-Vietnam war protests morphed into anti timber industry protests morphed into social justice protests (think WTO "Battle in Seattle") and back to anti war.
Those for whom everything is provided have the luxury of condemning those who provide.
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04-05-2007, 10:10
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Methinks Mr. Mayor is not conversant in his own muni code.
http://www.ci.tacoma.wa.us/cityclerk...11-Traffic.PDF
Specifically:
11.15.300 Cost recovery for unlawful special event.
Whenever a commercial or noncommercial special event is conducted without a special event permit, when one is required, or a special event is conducted in violation of the terms of an issued special event permit, the event organizer shall be responsible for, and the City shall charge the event organizer for, all City costs incurred for personnel and equipment for a public safety response caused or necessitated by the adverse impacts of the special event or the violation of the special event permit upon public safety. (Ord. 27155 § 1; passed Oct. 21, 2003
Note: costs for a legal event are also billed to the event organizer. I have my doubts as to the legality of these protesters.
'Nother Note: City of Tacoma has an elegantly organized site... took me all of a minute or two to find this info.
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04-05-2007, 11:46
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Methinks Mr. Mayor is not conversant in his own muni code.
http://www.ci.tacoma.wa.us/cityclerk...11-Traffic.PDF
Specifically:
11.15.300 Cost recovery for unlawful special event.
Whenever a commercial or noncommercial special event is conducted without a special event permit, when one is required, or a special event is conducted in violation of the terms of an issued special event permit, the event organizer shall be responsible for, and the City shall charge the event organizer for, all City costs incurred for personnel and equipment for a public safety response caused or necessitated by the adverse impacts of the special event or the violation of the special event permit upon public safety. (Ord. 27155 § 1; passed Oct. 21, 2003
Note: costs for a legal event are also billed to the event organizer. I have my doubts as to the legality of these protesters.
'Nother Note: City of Tacoma has an elegantly organized site... took me all of a minute or two to find this info.
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Uh Mr. Mayor, your slip is showing!
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04-06-2007, 08:27
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and this once again illustrates why we can't take Library Lady anywhere.
Nice work Ma'am.
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04-06-2007, 08:36
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Maybe the Army should send the bill back to the Mayor with a bill of their own for money injected into the local economy, providing green areas, and most of all, for preventing enemy invasion of Tacoma for the past two hundred years.
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