Is the Left Wing Destroying the Dems Before the '08 Election?

[The Reaper]

The incidence of loud and strident anti-war and anti-military events, the attempt to try key members of the Administration in kangaroo courts, the calls for impeachment, and proposed left-wing legislation lead me to believe that the Left Wing of the Democratic party was emboldened by the 2006 elections and now believes that the majority of the American people are with them, or will go along with their lunacy.

Does anyone else think that if the party leadership gives these whackos a little more rope for the next year or so, and the Republicans get their heads out of their asses, that the moderate Dems elected in the last election might find themselves out on the street, and the Dems suffer a backlash from the Independent and moderate voters in 2008?

I realize that the Republicans are at a disadvantage in defending Senate seats (again).

The anti-war wing is already causing certain Democratic candidates significant problems and negative exposure. They may rip one another (or their party) to shreds before 2008.

It just occurs to me that it is better to be strong in the presidential election years rather than in the mid-terms, and if you screw up, better do do it after the presidential elections rather than just before.

Thoughts, or am I just thinking wishfully?

TR

[GreenSalsa]

Sir,

I hope your right, but I fear we are heading down a long lonely cold path in the years to come. I see the news stories, listen to my liberal family members, read “main line” news stories and see Americans more interested in “feelings” over facts.
I see short-sighted gains being touted over long-term goals.
I see American politicians unwilling to bear the mantle of leadership and true statesmanship.
I see party politics over national interests.
I see protests burning soldier’s effigies in America.
I see Major City Mayors calling for impeachment.
I see American’s more concerned over Anna Nicole Smith than what is really going on in the world.
I see apathy and ignorance

Unless the Conservatives find a better choice in candidates (genuine, electable, and connectable), I fear for my nation.

[82ndtrooper]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

The incidence of loud and strident anti-war and anti-military events, the attempt to try key members of the Administration in kangaroo courts, the calls for impeachment, and proposed left-wing legislation lead me to believe that the Left Wing of the Democratic party was emboldened by the 2006 elections and now believes that the majority of the American people are with them, or will go along with their lunacy.

Does anyone else think that if the party leadership gives these whackos a little more rope for the next year or so, and the Republicans get their heads out of their asses, that the moderate Dems elected in the last election might find themselves out on the street, and the Dems suffer a backlash from the Independent and moderate voters in 2008?

I realize that the Republicans are at a disadvantage in defending Senate seats (again).

The anti-war wing is already causing certain Democratic candidates significant problems and negative exposure. They may rip one another (or their party) to shreds before 2008.

It just occurs to me that it is better to be strong in the presidential election years rather than in the mid-terms, and if you screw up, better do do it after the presidential elections rather than just before.

Thoughts, or am I just thinking wishfully?

TR

Perhaps not, after all, the dems promised to accomplish 6 things in the first one hundred hours, and they've found out the hard way that getting things through the house is fairly easy, but getting through the senate and to the POTUS desk are certainly another. To date they a score of "ZERO" for their first one hundred hours. These include the minimum wage increase, changes in Medicare and Medicaid, immigration, etc.

Moving America Forward.Com has established a strong following of moderate Americans that support the war, or at least the troops, and that are conciously aware of the dems antics in the house and senate. One of the mistakes liberals have alway's made is assuming that the majority of Americans are merely grass eaters with out any political grasp as to their antics. Case in point is this weeks headlines for the firing of 8 Judicial judges and the out cry for Gonzalez to be released from duty. They forget that we remember the Clintons fired most of their judicial judges also for political reasons, but left Michael Chertof to serve in this administration. Where was the outcry for an investigation then ?

I believe your correct that the tide will turn in two years, as I already believe that the public and the politicians have already grown somewhat cold to the new democratic leadership. Former President Clinton is due here today in Cincinnati and surprisingly he is not being met with much fan fare or appreciation. One year ago he had the city turning cart wheels for him, today he is struggling to fill the room to raise money for his wife. There was actually talk this morning on the local radio that he may cancil his appearance due to weak seat sales for the benefit.

I hope your right.

[Roguish Lawyer]

I think you correctly identify a weakness that can be exploited, but we need to look at our own internal problems first IMO.

[rubberneck]

What was that old saying from Lincoln... "a house divided against itself cannot stand" or something close to that. I think we are seeing that with the Democrats.

Neither party can win the oval office without the support of independents and some "moderates" from the other party. There are too many swing states where the vote is almost always close to 50-50. The same however cannot be said of Congressional elections. During the last election cycle moderate Republicans were replaced by moderate democrats in two dozen districts. The net result is that the House and Senate are now being run by people who are so far removed from the political mainstream that I have no doubts that many voters are now suffering buyers remorse. It is one thing to be the opposition party with no power and the party in control. Their wacky ways will now be laid bare for all the world to see.

As we get closer to the general election it will only get worse as Obama and Hillary try and out left each other. In the process they will turn off the moderates in their party and many independent voters nationwide. The Republicans on the other hand have a field of candidates that are, for the most part, not as far removed from the center/left in the country. As a conservative it makes me ill that we have guys like McCain, Romney and Guiliani to chose from but the lack of a real serious conservative (Come on Fred, save us from ourselves) threat in the field will prevent that republicans from trying to out do one another.

I think we saw the first shot fired by the Obama camp with that Apple commercial. He can deny it all he wants but his camps fingerprints are all over that and the Clinton's know it. Knowing the Clinton's history it won't go unanswered and their response is likely to be extremely vitriolic. Chances are that they will eat each other alive over the next 6 months and I couldn't be happier.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by rubberneck

I think we saw the first shot fired by the Obama camp with that Apple commercial. He can deny it all he wants but his camps fingerprints are all over that and the Clinton's know it. Knowing the Clinton's history it won't go unanswered and their response is likely to be extremely vitriolic. Chances are that they will eat each other alive over the next 6 months and I couldn't be happier.

I agree. Knowing the klintons, I've little doubt the witch will attack Obama with all she can. Want to bet she goes after his "muslim" up-bringing and or muslim father?

[x SF med]

You mean shrillary isn't 1/3 Christian, 1/3 Jewish, and 1/3 Muslim?

I thought her next claim was that she was: a black asian mexican caucasian christian jewish muslim lefthanded disabled gay flatfooted socially conscious treehugging industrial country urban anti-pro-war fiscally concious tax burden sensitive poor-rich she-male? (does that cover just about everything)

(as more religions/philosophies get outraged over not being included this the spread may change)

[Jgood]

Originally Posted by x SF med

You mean shrillary isn't 1/3 Christian, 1/3 Jewish, and 1/3 Muslim?

I thought her next claim was that she was: a black asian mexican caucasian christian jewish muslim lefthanded disabled gay flatfooted socially conscious treehugging industrial country urban anti-pro-war fiscally concious tax burden sensitive poor-rich she-male? (does that cover just about everything)

(as more religions/philosophies get outraged over not being included this the spread may change)

That needs to be on a shirt.

[Goggles Pizano]

Originally Posted by x SF med

You mean shrillary isn't 1/3 Christian, 1/3 Jewish, and 1/3 Muslim?

I thought her next claim was that she was: a black asian mexican caucasian christian jewish muslim lefthanded disabled gay flatfooted socially conscious treehugging industrial country urban anti-pro-war fiscally concious tax burden sensitive poor-rich she-male? (does that cover just about everything)

(as more religions/philosophies get outraged over not being included this the spread may change)

You mean she isn't???? Good Lord she had me bamboozled!

[Aoresteen]

Originally Posted by x SF med

You mean shrillary isn't 1/3 Christian, 1/3 Jewish, and 1/3 Muslim?

I thought her next claim was that she was: a black asian mexican caucasian christian jewish muslim lefthanded disabled gay flatfooted socially conscious treehugging industrial country urban anti-pro-war fiscally concious tax burden sensitive poor-rich she-male? (does that cover just about everything)

(as more religions/philosophies get outraged over not being included this the spread may change)

Don't forget Yankee fan or was that Cubs fan?

[incommin]

With the Dems, Repubs, and Independents just about equal in numbers, my hope is that the Dems start rubbing the Independents the wrong way and most vote Repub.

Jim

[x SF med]

Originally Posted by Aoresteen

Don't forget Yankee fan or was that Cubs fan?

the answer is: yes, for now, but that may change depending if she's in Boston or New York or someplace else - then it could be no - so the actual answer is maybe, but that's not definite, her staff has to do demographic research to see what the target audience wants to hear, ah forget it - no comment, I'll have to do some research.

[Trip_Wire (RIP)]

Originally Posted by GreenSalsa

Sir,

I hope your right, but I fear we are heading down a long lonely cold path in the years to come. I see the news stories, listen to my liberal family members, read “main line” news stories and see Americans more interested in “feelings” over facts.
I see short-sighted gains being touted over long-term goals.
I see American politicians unwilling to bear the mantle of leadership and true statesmanship.
I see party politics over national interests.
I see protests burning soldier’s effigies in America.
I see Major City Mayors calling for impeachment.
I see American’s more concerned over Anna Nicole Smith than what is really going on in the world.
I see apathy and ignorance

Unless the Conservatives find a better choice in candidates (genuine, electable, and connectable), I fear for my nation.

I fear that you are right! I would like to think that TR was right on; however, I don't think it will happen. I see the same things that you do. The Seattle City Council has already passed a resolution to get the troops out of Iraq now.

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by Aoresteen

Don't forget Yankee fan or was that Cubs fan?

As a long time suffering CUBS fan, I can tell you, we don't need her support. We're happy loosing time and time and time and time and time and time and time again, without her donning the Sacred Blue cap. God help us, if she ever came out to 1060 W. Addison and sang during the 7th inning stretch.




BTW.......FU*K the Yankees. ........... Play Ball.

[Radar Rider]

Just reading the thread title, RR's brain said "I sure hope so!"