01-31-2007, 20:41
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Life paths and decisions, would like some guidance
I am a sophomore in high school at the moment, and have my mind set on SF. Read through Get Selected for SF twice (thanks WM!), and I'm certain it's what I want.
At the moment, I have the options after graduating of working on an oilrig and making a large amount of money (50-60k/yr) until I'm 20 and enlist (18x minimum age requirement),
or go to college and get a 2 year degree (probably business) then enlist,
or enlist right after high school, serve infantry for a couple years, then fill out the application for SFAS.
A couple side points about my plans, the college plan bugs me because I'm afraid it would be a waste of time until I can enlist. While business (stock and real estate investment in particular) interest me, I can't imagine a business degree coming much in handy in SF unless we need to negotiate a trade for donkeys with some insurgents in a third world country.
About the immediate enlistment plan, I was thinking it might be a good plan to go through RIP and Ranger School, but then I read that Rangers really discourage people using the 75th as a quick stepping stone to SF.
Do you believe it is likely that a 20 year old 18x recruit would be mature enough to be a useful part of an ODA? Even if he has no tours, just an open mind and dedication?
What is your opinion on the college idea? Is it a waste of time, or would it be useful in getting some life experience and mental skills?
If I do immediately enlist, would you recommend RIP and Ranger School, and then going for SF as soon as I can?
I would appreciate any opinions on my plan, as it is easily subject to change, and what you guys say will have a large bearing on which path I take.
-Jon
P.S. I spent a half hour searching this site for "college," "degree," and "university." The only relevant topics I found were one about becoming 18A, and another about exactly which major to get.
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01-31-2007, 20:52
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Jon:
As a kid in school, no doubt you have more time than we do, so do us all a favor and keep digging, this topic has been covered repeatedly in 18X vs. college vs. 18A vs. Option 40 (Ranger) then SF threads. In fact, if you work your way down the SF Question page that this is posted on, there are several similar questions posed for your reading pleasure.
Besides, as a Canadian HS sophmore, the odds are better of me hitting the lottery than you have of getting to SF.
I will say that you asked nicely and write very well for someone of your age and status.
Thanks for your interest and professionalism.
Good luck.
TR
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01-31-2007, 20:54
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Originally Posted by MonkeySpunkey
...A couple side points about my plans, the college plan bugs me because I'm afraid it would be a waste of time until I can enlist. While business (stock and real estate investment in particular) interest me, I can't imagine a business degree coming much in handy in SF unless we need to negotiate a trade for donkeys with some insurgents in a third world country...
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Education is never a waste of time!
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01-31-2007, 21:13
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Jon:
As a kid in school, no doubt you have more time than we do, so do us all a favor and keep digging, this topic has been covered repeatedly in 18X vs. college vs. 18A vs. Option 40 (Ranger) then SF threads. In fact, if you work your way down the SF Question page that this is posted on, there are several similar questions posed for your reading pleasure.
Besides, as a Canadian HS sophmore, the odds are better of me hitting the lottery than you have of getting to SF.
I will say that you asked nicely and write very well for someone of your age and status.
Thanks for your interest and professionalism.
Good luck.
TR
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TheReaper: I appreciate the soft response :P. Apologies for my lack of SA, should have searched for threads relevant to my other question besides college.
I have dual citizenship, and I relate more to being an American than a Canadian, so that shouldn't be an issue when I enlist.
Thanks.
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01-31-2007, 21:24
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Can you skate?
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01-31-2007, 21:28
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Only when I'm not building igloos and drinking beer.
Nah, I can't skate. Tried rollerblading and cut up my arms once though. Does that count?
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01-31-2007, 21:30
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Nah, I can't skate.
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I am surprised they haven't revoked your Canadian citizenship.
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01-31-2007, 21:51
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Originally Posted by MonkeySpunkey
...I have dual citizenship, and I relate more to being an American than a Canadian...
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It doesnt matter much who you relate to. You will have to denounce your Canadian citizenship before you will be eligible for a secret clearance.
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01-31-2007, 22:04
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And I'll do it in a heartbeat when the time comes.
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01-31-2007, 23:00
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And I'll do it in a heartbeat when the time comes.
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Maybe we can trade you for someone. I'm willing to give up Al Franken for MonkeySpunky, and I'll throw in Charles Rangel, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, et al.
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02-01-2007, 06:32
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Maybe we can trade you for someone. I'm willing to give up Al Franken for MonkeySpunky, and I'll throw in Charles Rangel, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, et al.
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I second that....all in favor......
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02-01-2007, 06:44
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I'm sure we can add to that list before we seal the deal no?
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02-01-2007, 07:27
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Wait a minute, he can't skate. He needs to provide a proxy skater.
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02-01-2007, 07:27
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Trade?
How about we add most of the folks attending the Democratic National Convention to the list?
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02-01-2007, 07:43
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If he can't skate, he can't go to 10th .... It'll have to be a warm weather group.
Add shrillary to the list on the Trade - ahhh, one kid willing to go SF is worth the entire DNC, and all of the seated Dems... think Canada would take them, or is that unfair to Canada?
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