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Old 01-13-2007, 02:22   #1
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Post Thomas Jefferson's Quran...

My Dad sent me this this morning on Democrat Keith Ellison utilizing Thomas Jefferson's Quran for his swearing in ceremony in Congress. It is a 2 minute read in American history - and one I thoroughly enjoyed. He sent it to me with the title of "The Rest of the Story" In turn, I'd like to share it with you.

My Dad retired from the Navy as a Senior Chief and served 2 tours in Vietnam with NAVADVGPVN.
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What Thomas Jefferson learned
from the Muslim book of jihad
By Ted Sampley
U.S. Veteran Dispatch
January 2007


Democrat Keith Ellison is now officially the first Muslim United States congressman. True to his pledge, he placed his hand on the Quran, the Muslim book of jihad and pledged his allegiance to the United States during his ceremonial swearing-in. Capitol Hill staff said Ellison's swearing-in photo opportunity drew more media than they had ever seen in the history of the U.S. House. Ellison represents the 5th Congressional District of Minnesota. The Quran Ellison used was no ordinary book. It once belonged to Thomas Jefferson, third president of the United States and one of America's founding fathers. Ellison borrowed it from the Rare Book Section of the Library of Congress.
It was one of the 6,500 Jefferson books archived in the library. Ellison, who was born in Detroit and converted to Islam while in college, said he chose to use Jefferson's Quran because it showed that "a visionary like Jefferson" believed that wisdom could be gleaned from many sources.
There is no doubt Ellison was right about Jefferson believing wisdom could be "gleaned" from the Muslim Quran. At the time Jefferson owned the book, he needed to know everything possible about Muslims because he was about to advocate war against the Islamic "Barbary" states of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Tripoli. Ellison's use of Jefferson's Quran as a prop illuminates a subject once well-known in the history of the United States, but, which today, is mostly forgotten - the Muslim pirate slavers who over many centuries enslaved millions of Africans and tens of thousands of Christian Europeans and Americans in the Islamic "Barbary" states. Over the course of 10 centuries, Muslim pirates cruised the African and Mediterranean coastline, pillaging villages and seizing slaves. The taking of slaves in pre-dawn raids on unsuspecting coastal villages had a high casualty rate. It was typical of Muslim raiders to kill off as many of the "non-Muslim" older men and women as possible so the preferred "booty" of only young women and children could be collected. Young non-Muslim women were targeted because of their value as concubines in Islamic markets. Islamic law provides for the sexual interests of Muslim men by allowing them to take as many as four wives at one time and to have as many concubines as their fortunes allow.
Boys, as young as 9 or 10 years old, were often mutilated to create eunuchs who would bring higher prices in the slave markets of the Middle East. Muslim slave traders created "eunuch stations" along major African slave routes so the necessary surgery could be performed. It was estimated that only a small number of the boys subjected to the mutilation survived after the surgery. When American colonists rebelled against British rule in 1776, American merchant ships lost Royal Navy protection. With no American Navy for protection, American ships were attacked and their Christian crews enslaved by Muslim pirates operating under the control of the "Dey of Algiers"--an Islamist warlord ruling Algeria.
Because American commerce in the Mediterranean was being destroyed by the pirates, the Continental Congress agreed in 1784 to negotiate treaties with the four Barbary States. Congress appointed a special commission consisting of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin, to oversee the negotiations.
Lacking the ability to protect its merchant ships in the Mediterranean, the new America government tried to appease the Muslim slavers by agreeing to pay tribute and ransoms in order to retrieve seized American ships and buy the freedom of enslaved sailors. Adams argued in favor of paying tribute as the cheapest way to get American commerce in the Mediterranean moving again. Jefferson was opposed. He believed there would be no end to the demands for tribute and wanted matters settled "through the medium of war." He proposed a league of trading nations to force an end to Muslim piracy. In 1786, Jefferson, then the American ambassador to France, and Adams, then the American ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the "Dey of Algiers" ambassador to Britain. The Americans wanted to negotiate a peace treaty based on Congress' vote to appease. During the meeting Jefferson and Adams asked the Dey's ambassador why Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.
In a later meeting with the American Congress, the two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."
For the following 15 years, the American government paid the Muslims millions of dollars for the safe passage of American ships or the return of American hostages. The payments in ransom and tribute amounted to 20 percent of United States government annual revenues in 1800.
Not long after Jefferson's inauguration as president in 1801, he dispatched a group of frigates to defend American interests in the mediterranean, and informed Congress. Declaring that America was going to spend "millions for defense but not one cent for tribute," Jefferson pressed the issue by deploying American Marines and many of America's best warships to the Muslim Barbary Coast. The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, USS Philadelphia, USS Chesapeake, USS Argus, USS Syren and USS Intrepid all saw action. In 1805, American Marines marched across the dessert from Egypt into Tripolitania, forcing the surrender of Tripoli and the freeing of all American slaves.
During the Jefferson administration, the Muslim Barbary States, crumbling as a result of intense American naval bombardment and on shore raids by Marines, finally officially agreed to abandon slavery and piracy. Jefferson's victory over the Muslims lives on today in the Marine Hymn, with the line, "From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli, we will fight our country's battles on the land as on the sea."
It wasn't until 1815 that the problem was fully settled by the total defeat of all the Muslim slave trading pirates. Jefferson had been ri rght. The "medium of war" was the only way to put and end to the Muslim problem. Mr. Ellison was right about Jefferson. He was a "visionary" wise enough to read and learn about the enemy from their own Muslim book of jihad.


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Old 01-13-2007, 02:51   #2
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Good stuff, Eagle. Thanks.
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Old 01-13-2007, 04:33   #3
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Very enlightening article. Thanks for posting that.

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Old 01-13-2007, 08:02   #4
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Great article, thank you for posting it.

Unfortunately in todays education system it would be only glossed over in Social Studies or be trotted out as another example of "white Judeo-Christans oppressing poor, 3rd world muslims".

Again thanks for bringing it up.
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Old 01-13-2007, 09:10   #5
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Outstanding post. Thanks Eagle!

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Lacking the ability to protect its merchant ships in the Mediterranean, the new America government tried to appease the Muslim slavers by agreeing to pay tribute and ransoms in order to retrieve seized American ships and buy the freedom of enslaved sailors.
Cut and run????

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Jefferson was opposed. He believed there would be no end to the demands for tribute and wanted matters settled "through the medium of war." He proposed a league of trading nations to force an end to Muslim piracy.
Stay the course?????

Stay the course?????
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Old 01-13-2007, 09:15   #6
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Hit the post button too soon....

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Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."
Todays bad guys?????

Seems they had all the same players that we have today. Why don't we learn?
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:33   #7
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Does anybody here really believe that the democrats on the hill actually have any understanding of Islamic Muslim history ?? Foreign policy in the middle east was obviously something Jefferson wanted to know more about.

Perhaps the democrats should take the time to read some of Jeffersons history lessons before running their mouths about something to which they do not fully comprehend or understand. Cany any democrat even cite the current GDP of Saudi Arabia ?? and what the GDP consists of ? And yet they think we have no business in the middle eastern region.

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Old 01-13-2007, 11:44   #8
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Great read! Thanks for findin that and letting us digest that piece of forgotten history.
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Old 01-13-2007, 12:13   #9
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Thanks, Eagle.
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Old 01-13-2007, 14:20   #10
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Thank you Eagle, this is a very interesting read.
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Old 01-13-2007, 18:10   #11
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Can never learn enough from our own history...

I've become an avid reader of Jefferson and Thomas Paine (Common Sense, The Rights of Man) lately.

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Old 01-14-2007, 12:03   #12
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Jefferson truely was a visionary.

Having this Quran, T. J. took a page from The Art Of War by Sun Tzu, "Know Thy Enemy..."

Thanks for posting this Eagle.
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Old 01-15-2007, 14:54   #13
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great read, Ill have to pass that info one to some friends not on PS.
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Old 01-23-2007, 21:56   #14
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Excellent read, Eagle...
Jefferson was called, among other things, a visionary. I hope and pray that America, like Jefferson, will someday begin to see the light of its future before it is too late.
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Excellent read, Eagle...
Jefferson was called, among other things, a visionary. I hope and pray that America, like Jefferson, will someday begin to see the light of its future before it is too late.
Thanks again.
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