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Old 11-03-2006, 21:18   #1
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Democrats: 'No comment' on terrorists' endorsement

Well darn. Nothing like having support..


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1731864/posts

DNC, Clinton, Pelosi, Kennedy decline to discuss jihadists' vote of confidence

National leaders in the Democratic Party, including Howard Dean's Democratic National Committee, potential House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, possible presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and longtime party stalwart Ted Kennedy don't want to talk with WorldNetDaily about an endorsement their party has received.

The endorsement came via a WND article by Jerusalem bureau chief Aaron Klein, who interviewed leaders of several prominent Mideast terrorist organizations, including Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and Islamic Jihad.

"Of course Americans should vote Democrat," Jihad Jaara, a senior member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group, and infamous leader of the 2002 siege of Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity, told WND.

"This is why American Muslims will support the Democrats, because there is an atmosphere in America that encourages those who want to withdraw from Iraq. It is time that the American people support those who want to take them out of this Iraqi mud," said Jaara, speaking to WND from exile in Ireland, where he was sent as part of an internationally brokered deal that ended the church siege.

Jaara and others told WND that they believe if the Democrats come into power because of the party's position on withdrawing from Iraq, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.

Together with the Islamic Jihad terror group, the Brigades has taken responsibility for every suicide bombing inside Israel the past two years, including an attack in Tel Aviv in April that killed American teenager Daniel Wultz and nine Israelis.

Muhammad Saadi, a senior leader of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank town of Jenin, said the Democrats' talk of withdrawal from Iraq makes him feel "proud."

"As Arabs and Muslims we feel proud of this talk," he told WND. "Very proud from the great successes of the Iraqi resistance. This success that brought the big superpower of the world to discuss a possible withdrawal."

But WND was unable to get a single comment from dozens of telephone calls made over two days and messages left with various leaders' offices and press secretaries.

"I'll see what we can do," was the best response WND obtained when asking for a comment on the endorsement, and that came from Deputy Press Secretary Andrew Hammill in Pelosi's office. It came on the third call to that office.

The Democratic National Committee was approached at least six times, and multiple messages were deposited on a voice mail system handled by the courteous Rosemary, who said, "We're extremely busy," but there was no response, even after one spokesman in Sen. Barack Obama's officer referred WND to the DNC because such a question would be in "Chairman Dean's" territory.

The Democratic Leadership Council's response to multiple phone calls was similar, a promise to call back later.

At least three messages left with Sen. Clinton's office went unreturned after a receptionist forwarded the calls to an answering machine, which informed WND that, "No one is available to take your call at this time."

Calls to Sen. Kennedy's office actually reached a live person, who listened to the request and promised, "If we're able to we'll shoot you something. We can't promise."

Colorado Sen. Ken Salazar's office generated a merry-go-round of telephone numbers. A call to his Washington office generated a referral to a Denver office, which generated a referral to a press office, which generated a referral to a cell phone. When a spokesman answered that number, the caller was referred back to the press office, which had an answering machine attached to the line. Leave a message.

A call to Sen. Harry Reid also allowed the caller to leave a message.

On the Republican side, Sen. Tom Tancredo, of Colorado, said those Mideast leaders are right – in one way.

He told WND that the assessment by terrorists who suggested U.S. voters choose the Democrats on Tuesday because they believe an expected removal of U.S. troops from the Mideast would hand their factions victory is hard to dispute.

"I guess the conclusion to which anyone could come … maybe they recognize that both the general nature of the Democratic Party and the people who are at its head are folks that would rather cut and run than stand their ground on an issue of this nature," he said.

"They're right. I also worry about a lot of things, the way the war has been prosecuted. But beyond Iraq, here's what I believe. I believe that there are more Republicans than Democrats that understand we are in a clash of civilizations.

"In fact the idea that Western civilization has advantages over other civilizations, that is not a concept that most Democrats would buy into and I think the radical Islamic groups recognize that," he said.

The president's recent statements also have given those factions reason to hope for better results under a Democrat Party leadership than the existing decision-makers.

"Our goal in Iraq is victory," Bush said during a campaign stop this week. "Victory in Iraq will come when that young democracy can sustain itself, and govern itself, and defend itself, and be a strong ally in the war against terrorists.

"The fighting in Iraq is tough, and I understand it's tough, and you know it's tough, and so does the enemy. They have no conscience. They kill innocent men, women and children. They film the atrocities, they broadcast them for the world to see. They offer no hopeful vision. The only thing they know is death and destruction.

"But they hope these violent images will cause us to lose our nerve. They make a big mistake. They do not understand the true strength of the United States. We don't run in the face of thugs and assassins, we'll defend ourselves," he said.
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Old 11-03-2006, 21:42   #2
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Pelosi has been hiding for the last week. She knows that her leftist position is not electable; she's hoping that the MSM BS influences enough people to elect her and her dirty party.

Come out, Nancy! Come out, Harry Reid! They are hiding because they are weak.
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Old 11-03-2006, 22:41   #3
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The al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, while pond scum, has an ideology based in Palestinian Nationalism. WND is about as sharp as a bowling ball.
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Old 11-04-2006, 06:55   #4
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Interesting report - unfortunately the bad guys are right. The Democrats willingly play right into their hands. Americans in general have little patience for a long, difficult fight and our enemies know this. The Dems are more than willing to exploit this to win an election, with little or no concern for the long-term effects. The radical Islam folks may be crazy, but they are not stupid - I think many of them are smarter than most of our politicians and they know how to play American public opinion better than most of our politicians.
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:23   #5
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Well said Jo Sul.

It can't be denied that extremists feel this way, regardless of what publication prints it.
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Old 11-04-2006, 09:40   #6
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The GOP is just as eager to exploit it to win an election, that’s why I didn’t work on any midterm campaigns for them. Both sides are wrong, UBL would much rather bleed us out than watch us cut and run. He thought he was going to draw us into Afghanistan w/ 9/11 and bleed us out fiscally, physically, and mentally just like they did to the Soviets. He just got the country wrong, its Iraq not Afghanistan. Doesn’t matter who wins the midterms we’re not leaving Iraq anytime soon, energy security has been a pillar of our national security strategy since FDR.

I agree Jo Sul, they know us much better then we know ourselves. They know we are too humble a people to admit our oil dependency; it took POTUS 4 years after 9/11 to finally admit we have an addiction. They also know that as a people we are as blind to the ways of the world, so as to lump all dudes with a bedsheet on their head, and a gripe with us into one group. These guys are sharp, our politicians and political system is not.
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Old 11-04-2006, 13:02   #7
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The GOP is just as eager to exploit it to win an election, that’s why I didn’t work on any midterm campaigns for them. Both sides are wrong, UBL would much rather bleed us out than watch us cut and run. He thought he was going to draw us into Afghanistan w/ 9/11 and bleed us out fiscally, physically, and mentally just like they did to the Soviets. He just got the country wrong, its Iraq not Afghanistan. Doesn’t matter who wins the midterms we’re not leaving Iraq anytime soon, energy security has been a pillar of our national security strategy since FDR.
I subscribe to the side that says UBL had no idea we would attack as quickly and as effectively as we did. UBL underestimated POTUS, it was not by BUL's design that we destroyed the Taliban and probably him personally. Your statement regarding this being some grand scheme of UBL's to bleed us gives him far more credit than he deserves. The last thing he wanted done was the destruction of the Taliban and his safehaven being invaded and conquered by us.

As far as us not cutting and running if the Dems take both houses..........this is contrary to everything being said by the Democratic Leadership. UBL does not want us to cut and run???!!??

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They know we are too humble a people to admit our oil dependency;it took POTUS 4 years after 9/11 to finally admit we have an addiction.
I am trying to play nice! I even counted to 10 several times! The reality is that President bashing is one thing, but to make blatantly erroneous statements regarding the POTUS is entirely different. Reading POTUS' National Energy Policy published in May 2001 (4 months prior to 9/11) clearly shows that his administration was fully aware of our oil dependency.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/energy/


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They also know that as a people we are as blind to the ways of the world, so as to lump all dudes with a bedsheet on their head, and a gripe with us into one group.
It is just the opposite, the Islamo Fascists lump all infidels into one group.

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These guys are sharp, our politicians and political system is not.
Yep, the 13th Century Islamo Fascists are far brighter than our system and our countries leaders.
I can take criticism of our politicians and our country from individuals who have made sacrifices to serve their country.

I was never good at playing in the sandbox. I always wound up in a fight.
POTUS took off this morning from my fair city. It was an honor to be in his presence again.
Okay going to get out of the sandbox and maybe find a different place to play where I can take the gloves off.

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Old 11-04-2006, 17:57   #8
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Here's why the "Dims" don't get it...

http://www.democracy-project.com/archives/002893.html

Univeristy of Pennsylvania President hosting a halloween party at her house and posing with students dressed as suicide bombers.

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Here's why the "Dims" don't get it...

http://www.democracy-project.com/archives/002893.html

Univeristy of Pennsylvania President hosting a halloween party at her house and posing with students dressed as suicide bombers.

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An obvious question: would Gutmann have posed with a guest--or even allowed him into her house--if he'd dressed as Adolf Hitler or a Nazi SS officer? A KKK member?
THAT I'd like an answer to myself. I despise hypocrisy, and see that the Dims are the greatest practitioners of hypocrisy around.
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I agree with CoLawman - I don't think UBL expected us to go into Afghanistan like we did, I think he (and the Taliban) expected us to do the same thing Bill Clinton did (fire a few Tomahawks from the coast and go home). UBL has been "bled dry" more than we have, but he and his people are more willing to sacrifice that we are - face it, most Americans are fat, lazy, and more interested in American Idol than American International Policy.

I do agree that most of our politicians, on both sides, are focused on bullshit and trying to play spin-games on everything. That being said, I support the POTUS and am a convicted conservative Republican.

The Islamic radicals are smart enough to know how to play our political and public opinion system - that does not make them right. I just wish our politicians (and the American public) would take a longer-term view, regardless of the eternal battle between Republicans and Democrats, on the issue (I know, this is unrealistic).
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UBL has been "bled dry" more than we have, but he and his people are more willing to sacrifice that we are
Let them sacrifice; every martyr is one less knucklehead that wants to kill us.

Whether or not one agrees with the US method of one year tours, it is far superior to the enemy whom we face. They wanna die for their cause? Good, our troops will be more than willing to assist them.

US troops go the fight, kick ass, come home, and are replaced by fighters that will continue to kick ass. Just like Vietnam (which we won, by the way).
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The GOP is just as eager to exploit it to win an election, that’s why I didn’t work on any midterm campaigns for them. Both sides are wrong, UBL would much rather bleed us out than watch us cut and run. He thought he was going to draw us into Afghanistan w/ 9/11 and bleed us out fiscally, physically, and mentally just like they did to the Soviets. He just got the country wrong, its Iraq not Afghanistan. Doesn’t matter who wins the midterms we’re not leaving Iraq anytime soon, energy security has been a pillar of our national security strategy since FDR.

I agree Jo Sul, they know us much better then we know ourselves. They know we are too humble a people to admit our oil dependency; it took POTUS 4 years after 9/11 to finally admit we have an addiction. They also know that as a people we are as blind to the ways of the world, so as to lump all dudes with a bedsheet on their head, and a gripe with us into one group. These guys are sharp, our politicians and political system is not.
On what do you base this insight into Bin Laden's intentions and probable courses of action?
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On what do you base this insight into Bin Laden's intentions and probable courses of action?
Why from his vast life experiences with terrorists as a student in the RI/Mass area.
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Old 11-05-2006, 11:35   #14
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I think someone may have read Imperial Hubris.
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NDD,
I base my insight from my study of open sources and analysis from counter-terrorism and national security specialists. The Management of Savagery by Abu Bakr Naji I think spells out alot of their gameplan. I realize with this crowd that back it up, is more what you've done, than what you've read. In that case I've gotten too big for my britches, and will limit my posting.
But am I "so open minded that my brain has fallen out" or am I kind of on track here?
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