09-15-2006, 08:10
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Carrying WAY too much weight
I thought some guys might get a kick out of this. It was the main story on the front page of our paper on campus. I started laughing after the second sentence.
http://www.kansan.com/stories/2006/s...backpack/?news
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09-15-2006, 08:38
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"The Topeka junior’s bag weighed 19 pounds, too much according to the American Chiropractic Association. Overweight backpacks can cause major long-term back problems.
Victoria Houghton, ACA representative, said a backpack should weigh no more than 10 percent of a person’s body weight. For Fecchia, who weighs 125 pounds, this is 12.5 pounds, 6.5 less than she carried Wednesday."
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19 lbs.? The horror!!
Average fighting load for just walking around outside the wire exceeds 70 lbs. in most cases, and emergency approach march weights exceed 150 lbs.
Clearly, the Army needs more chiropractors.
TR
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09-15-2006, 08:45
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Maybe they'll make it a new MOS... 
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09-15-2006, 09:44
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American Chiropractic Association
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That pretty much sums it up. Would be another story had it been about 3rd graders carrying around 20lb backpacks.
I'm suprised they didnt also mention how everyone should be adjusted every 2 weeks to prevent major disease. No kidding one here in town tells people their kids would be better off without vaccinations and to get regular adjustments instead.
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09-15-2006, 11:00
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Could this be another reason why we are becomming a softer society?
Jim
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09-15-2006, 11:28
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Could this be another reason why we are becomming a softer society?
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That's a resounding Y E S! Moooooom my back hurts...can I forget class and just hit the puter for 6 hours! 
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09-15-2006, 11:38
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A big problem is not the weight they carry but the fact that it is "fashionable" to let the pack droop down the back. They do not cinch the straps up properly and the weight is pulling their shoulders back causing horrible posture. My 13 year old has this problem (I just weighed his bookbag and it comes in at 23lbs) and refused to cinch the straps properly.
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09-15-2006, 13:36
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Originally Posted by brewmonkey
(I just weighed his bookbag and it comes in at 23lbs) .
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I must be getting old, but what in heaven's name does any school kid need that weighs 23lbs, unless he is going to school at Columbine and is carrying his own body armor and wpns for the pending gunfight? What was in the bag, brew?
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09-15-2006, 13:56
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These days, they print books with stupid pictures that take up lots of space and have little informative value. Essentially, wasting paper and adding weight.
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09-15-2006, 14:02
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Originally Posted by Wiseman
These days, they print books with stupid pictures that take up lots of space and have little informative value. Essentially, wasting paper and adding weight.
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That might be, but I just completed graduate school a couple of years ago and my entire semesters worth of books didn't weigh 23 pounds. Even going to class with a thermos, calculator, books, and miscellaneous old person paraphenalia it couldn't have tipped the scale at 15 pounds.
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09-15-2006, 14:24
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Originally Posted by Jack Moroney
miscellaneous old person paraphenalia .
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Sir are you actually admitting time has had it's way with you?? NEVER thought I'd here that from a FOQP! 
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09-15-2006, 15:45
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Sir:
A notebook computer and power supply alone can easily add 10-12 lbs.
TR
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09-15-2006, 16:23
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I have seen my nine year old pack up her "kit" for a day of school with "Household 6" (my wife) conducting PCI's before they head out the door. I swear the kid looks like she should be attending pre-Ranger or something.
I also knew of a school in Colorado that got rid of all their wall lockers shortly after Colubmine...those kids had to hump everything they need for that day - all day, every day. Well SFAS should be a whole lot easier for those H.S. grads! 
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09-15-2006, 17:51
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This talk makes me long for the old days of struggling to get to the door with all your stuff and a base plate banging into your knees.
Jim
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09-15-2006, 19:32
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Originally Posted by Goggles Pizano
Sir are you actually admitting time has had it's way with you?? NEVER thought I'd here that from a FOQP! |
Actually I wasn't referring to a six pack of Ensure and a spare Depends or two. My old person paraphenalia was extra lead for my 5mm click top lead pencil, a spare black US government pen, and a couple of extra aspirin all folded neatly into my leather zipper closed notebook . The youngin's I took the master's program with showed up with backpacks that could sustain a jump TOC for 48 hours with food, electronic wizardry, water in high speed reuseable water bottles from which they evidently had to suck continuously to maintain some kind of magic electrolytic balance, aromatic coffee with names no one could pronounce, batteries, and a variety of odds and ends for personal maintenance that was designer runway ready.
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