03-29-2004, 18:28
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Executive Privilege and the NS Advisor
Should Doctor Rice be forced to testify under oath before the 9/11 comission?
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03-29-2004, 18:34
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With live coverage by CNN, FOX, etc., being broadcast around the world, or in private?
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03-29-2004, 18:37
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My understanding is they want it in public.
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03-29-2004, 18:37
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They can classify it, but she should be forced to testify. She's the National Security Advisor. If nobody testifies, she should.
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03-29-2004, 18:40
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03-29-2004, 18:45
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They can classify it, but she should be forced to testify. She's the National Security Advisor. If nobody testifies, she should.
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Umm, Sigi, she has already delivered 4.5 hours of private testimony to the commission.
The NSA has NEVER been required to testify publicly about anything like this. Do you really want her having to answer questions about who had what intel, and what was its source? Do you think she MIGHT receive classified information in order to do her job? Do you really think the public has a need to know that classified info? Hello??? Public testimony is no longer classified.
If she sets the precedent, I don't expect to hear any snivelling during the next Demo administration when they get called to testify about intel publicly.
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03-29-2004, 18:45
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She has already been questioned for four+ hours by the panel. She volunteered then to come back at the committee's discretion. She has since offered to come back again if requested...
IMO, She should not be called in public. Sets a bad precedent and is not needed...
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03-29-2004, 18:45
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She is the most important advisor the President has pertaining to Natl Security. She may take reports from subordinates, but she recommends what policy should be.
Not that I want to see her take all the heat, I feel that as the NS advisor she should answer as to what she took over from the last administration, what she recommened to President Bush, and where the failures were.
She is good people, and I like her.
I think they should classify it because there are some things I don't want people knowing. I am not sure what she knows or could say, so the prudent thing to do is classify it.
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03-29-2004, 18:48
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I think you are confused. You say she should testify "classified" . She already did. It was behind closed doors. I assume you did not know this.
If you did, then please explain how you can testify publicly and discuss classified information at the same time without violating your responsibility with safeguarding the info and its means of collection???
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03-29-2004, 18:48
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She is the most important advisor the President has pertaining to Natl Security. She may take reports from subordinates, but she recommends what policy should be.
Not that I want to see her take all the heat, I feel that as the NS advisor she should answer as to what she took over from the last administration, what she recommened to President Bush, and where the failures were.
She is good people, and I like her.
I think they should classify it because there are some things I don't want people knowing. I am not sure what she knows or could say, so the prudent thing to do is classify it.
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YOU CANNOT CLASSIFY PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
THE TESTIMONY YOU DESCRIBE WILL BURN SOURCES AND METHODS.
SHE ALREADY ANSWERED THEIR QUESTIONS PRIVATELY.
THIS IS A REQUEST BY THE COMMISSION TO PUBLICLY GRANDSTAND, AND KICK AN ADMINSTRATION OFFICIAL AROUND.
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I like the way you are thinking, Doc.
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03-29-2004, 18:51
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Yes on making her testify, as many times as they would like her to.
No, on the public hearing.
My bad, I thought "classify" meant in private.
The 9/11 commission should not allow, let alone force, the NSA to testify in public.
My .02
I think I missed the spirit of the question.
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03-29-2004, 18:54
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She has already testified as to all the above.
It is just typical grandstanding. They, the Democrat leadership, are just trying to make it look as though this Administration has something to hide by not allowing her to testify in public. She has answered their questions once. They just want her to answer to allegations made by DICK Clarke.
As TR stated, the NSA has never had to testify under oath to Congress and doing so now would set a presedent. The information Dr Rice is privy to does not need to be broadcast to the public, not does it need to be under oath.
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Double Tap. Sorry
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03-29-2004, 18:58
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No
As The Reaper stated this is just political grandstanding.
Nothing will be gained by having her testify in public
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They, the Democrat leadership, are just trying to make it look as though this Administration has something to hide by not allowing her to testify in public. She has answered their questions once. They just want her to answer to allegations made by DICK Clarke.
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Nothing is off limits to the democratic party. I missed the mark on the question. Dr Rice should testify to the commission in Private, and her remarks and the questions she is asked should not be made public.
I was under the impression that NDD was speaking about a second behind closed doors questioning. I'll sit back and learn the rest of the way.
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