07-05-2006, 20:14
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Cinch Tight Compression "H" Bandage
I recently got engaged in a topic over blowout kits, something that caught my eye through a reccomendation was a civilian package that is sold, and contains something called a Cinch Tight Compression "H" Bandage. After I googled the item in question I came to some conclusions.
The Cinch Tight Compression "H" Bandage looks interesting. But I would have to get my hands on it before I could really state my opinions. My inital concern would be its ease of use. It clearly states the capeablity to apply with one hand, but how much longer would the process be, over a simple tourniquet, if you were under such conditions? It jumps out at me that a simple tourniquet achieves the same effect, with a more consistant desired result.
The bandage on it looks like it can protect from outside debree, but if it does cut off blood flow in a tourniquet like effect, is there a purpose to the bandage it also applies over the wound? The tourniquet alone should give you the hemostatsis, or control needed for something out of a blowout kit.
I've searched over the site for this particular bandage but it doesn't come up. If memory serves me right bandages like this one have been covered before. I was curious to know anyone have and first hand experince using these? Earlier versions perhaps, or have knowledge of there use in a tactical enviroment that makes it suited for a blowout kit?
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07-05-2006, 20:20
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What no Link or PIX??
So now we have to do the work now.
Off to googlfuggle
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07-05-2006, 20:42
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Gordon,
As you said, you need to handle one to know. Buy one, test it and report back.
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07-05-2006, 20:52
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Humm, makes me wish I was still doing hem-control in socm. I do belive I will get my hands on some. I'll post up my findings when I get some time to experiment with them.
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07-06-2006, 05:53
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Originally Posted by Gordon
Humm, makes me wish I was still doing hem-control in socm. I do belive I will get my hands on some. I'll post up my findings when I get some time to experiment with them.
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Just like NDD said, Try it out. Nice find too.
See if the Instructors at SWMG can pick some up. They could test them out, buy them on a GPC. Ask it can't hurt.
Same thing with you and the HEM-Control Block. Ask about testing it after class.
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History teaches that when you become indifferent and lose the will to fight someone who has the will to fight will take over."
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07-07-2006, 09:15
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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
Gordon,
...Buy one, test it and report back.
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Tom Harder at H&H Associates recently sent me some ThinCinches, H-bandages and their gen4 tourniquets for eval. I'm sure they would be happy to do the same for you guys.
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07-07-2006, 15:54
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We tried one of those in our tac-med class....tore the hook right off. The Israeli bandage is the one we like and I agree sometimes a tourniquet may be the correct answer but not under all circumstances. Having both allows you to decide and that is what we teach for the civilian tac-medic.
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07-07-2006, 17:27
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Originally Posted by LeakyBandage
Tom Harder at H&H Associates recently sent me some ThinCinches, H-bandages and their gen4 tourniquets for eval. I'm sure they would be happy to do the same for you guys.
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Please step over to the Introductions thread and introduce yourself.
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01-28-2007, 19:07
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I don't mean to revive a dead thread, but I was wondering if any of you guys had ordered a VOK and tried it out? Any thoughts, good or bad?
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01-28-2007, 19:11
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Not to sound ignorant....but, what is a VOK?
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(adapted from: Sherwin B. Nuland, MD, surgeon and author: The Wisdom of the Body, 1997 )
Education is the anti-ignorance we all need to better treat our patients. ss, 2008.
The blade is so sharp that the incision is perfect. They don't realize they've been cut until they're out of the fight: A Surgeon Warrior. I use a knife to defend life and to save it. ss (aka traumadoc)
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01-28-2007, 19:13
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The blowout kit that had been discussed earlier in the thread.
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01-28-2007, 21:35
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I believe the VOK is the Ventilated Operator Kit, packaged and sold by Tactical Response Gear ( www.tacticalresponsegear.com). I just now checked their website, and the VOK is no longer offered; in its place is the Cinch-Tight Catastrophic Trauma Kit.
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01-28-2007, 21:53
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The VOK is still offered, but out of stock. Tactical Response doesn't do back orders so anything out of stock in the store is taken off the site.
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01-29-2007, 11:41
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You do mean the cinch tight???? That's a joke right?
Please, do not use it if you care about applying a real tourniquet to someone. An Israeli bandage costs about the same and will do more. That thing is for people that are clueless when it comes to field mangement ...its only use I could see is to hold up an IV bag.
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(adapted from: Sherwin B. Nuland, MD, surgeon and author: The Wisdom of the Body, 1997 )
Education is the anti-ignorance we all need to better treat our patients. ss, 2008.
The blade is so sharp that the incision is perfect. They don't realize they've been cut until they're out of the fight: A Surgeon Warrior. I use a knife to defend life and to save it. ss (aka traumadoc)
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