06-28-2006, 03:30
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Israel invades Gaza
Ya gotta hand it to the Israelis. When they say "we're gonna bring ya home", they mean it!
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06-28-2006, 06:50
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Trained a little with them when I was in - they don't mess around.
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06-28-2006, 08:47
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The Israelis are also demonstrating their sense of a formidable national "resolve", one I wish we enjoyed.
I'm betting more than one coward in the hamas leadership filled his pants when the Israelis entered Gaza this time.
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06-28-2006, 08:56
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I was watching this unfold at 2am local time. My heart indeed filled with pride, not because we stronger than them, not because we are flexing, but because we deployed, tanks, apc's, SF, infantry (1000's), to get one abducted soldier back.
Now it is clear the Qassam issue will also be resolved now, but there is no mistake that this is to pressure Hamas to release this poor youngster.
I am not certain we will get him back alive, but we have to try.
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06-28-2006, 09:22
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I hope that we get an "aleph aleph" on Khaled Meshal and his photo gets a nice red X on it.
With another reported kidnapping (making this 3) this episode is seems to be getting right dirty.
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06-28-2006, 09:33
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Originally Posted by danjam
I hope that we get an "aleph aleph" on Khaled Meshal and his photo gets a nice red X on it.
With another reported kidnapping (making this 3) this episode is seems to be getting right dirty.
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What 3rd one Dan?
edit: Ok, i saw.
About Friggin time you post here! :-)
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06-28-2006, 11:09
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CNN has just reported the Israel jets have done a fly by over the Syrian presidents house.
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06-28-2006, 13:04
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CNN has just reported the Israel jets have done a fly by over the Syrian presidents house.
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I saw that, now that had me laughing out loud....... guess who else filled his pants.......
I'm sure a priceless momnet was lost. I wish I could have seen syrian dicators face when he was told "those are not our jets...."
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06-28-2006, 13:14
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What is surprising is the report that the Syrian guns did not fire at our planes until after they had left the airspace.
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06-28-2006, 14:41
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What is surprising is the report that the Syrian guns did not fire at our planes until after they had left the airspace.
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I don't find that "surprising".
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06-28-2006, 17:40
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Good for them!
Nothing I respect more than a no BS response to a BS hostile act.
You kidnap one of ours, we invade your country (or the country that hosts you either way). Keep up the great work Israel!
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06-30-2006, 10:07
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ISRAEL threatens to assassinate Palestinian PM Ismael Haniyeh
Saw this on a site and had to Goggle it. Found that it seems true. Two finds 1 & 2
Man talk about making an AO just Blow up!!
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ISRAEL last night threatened to assassinate Palestinian Prime Minister Ismael Haniyeh if Hamas militants did not release a captured Israeli soldier unharmed.
The unprecedented warning was delivered to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in a letter as Israel debated a deal offered by Hamas to free Corporal Gilad Shalit.
It came as Israeli military officials readied a second invasion force for a huge offensive into Gaza.
Hamas's Gaza-based political leaders, including Mr Haniyeh, had already gone into hiding.
But last night's direct threat to kill Mr Haniyeh, a democratically elected head of state, sharply raised the stakes.
The bid to free Corporal Shalit was brokered by Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, who last night warned Hamas it faced severe consequences if it did not curb its "extreme stance" and described the growing conflict as a lightning rod for Palestinian vengeance.
Jerusalem has made no official comment, but Egyptian state media said Israel had found the offer unacceptable. Israel has not spelt out the terms demanded by Hamas, but earlier this week it refused to buy into talk of a prisoner swap.
Thousands of Hamas supporters protested in Gaza City late on Thursday over the arrest by Israeli forces of up to 32 Hamas MPs on the West Bank that day.
A Hamas spokesman said the group would never recognise Israel, in spite of a deal its leaders signed this week offering implicit recognition of the Jewish state in return for easing an economic blockade.
Israeli fighter jets bombed 20 targets in Gaza, including the Interior Ministry, which it said had been used by militants to stage meetings, while artillery hit the northern strip with 500 shells in the 24 hours until yesterday morning.
Jewish settler Eliyahu Asheri, who was murdered by militants this week, was buried on Thursday as leaders of the Popular Resistance Committees pledged to seize more hostages in the West Bank. No further word has emerged about another suspected Jewish hostage, Noach Moskowitz, who Israeli police said was found dead hours after Mr Asheri's remains were found.
Much of Gaza, including two main hospitals, was without power and running water as a UN aid chief warned that the 1.4 million residents of the strip were three days away from a humanitarian crisis.
"They are heading for the abyss unless they get electricity and fuel restored," said emergency relief co-ordinator Jan Egeland, who urged militants to free Corporal Shalit and stop firing rockets into Israel.
Residents complain that sonic booms caused by Israeli jets traumatise children and that shelling confines families to their homes.
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has vowed the military will do all it can to avoid civilian deaths if a full-scale assault is launched.
Mr Olmert said the decision to invade northern Gaza had already been delayed to allow Mr Mubarak's negotiations to continue.
The arrested Hamas legislators have been sent to security prisons and many will stand trial on terrorism offences. The detentions have hurt Hamas's already limited ability to govern and are likely to force a regime change.
Israel claims it has intelligence about the area where Corporal Shalit is held, but has been unable to pinpoint the exact location. Mr Olmert said the military would leave the strip if he was unconditionally and safely returned.
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06-30-2006, 10:37
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I would say with a fair amount of confidence that the Syrian Air Defense sites shut their radars off if Israeli jets even look like they are going to cross the border. They more than likely cease all flight ops as well.
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06-30-2006, 13:30
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I am all for a strong response and am glad Israel has acted. But 1.4 million people without basic services, including hospitals and working electricity to run the water filtration plant seems a bit of a heavy handed response. I empathize with Israel and do not know if I would not demand the same response if I were in their shoes. Why pillage the civilians for the acts of the leaders? I am not sure the children in Gaza should be put in the middle of al this. Hearts and minds, IMHO.
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06-30-2006, 13:37
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Originally Posted by JMI
I am all for a strong response and am glad Israel has acted. But 1.4 million people without basic services, including hospitals and working electricity to run the water filtration plant seems a bit of a heavy handed response. I empathize with Israel and do not know if I would not demand the same response if I were in their shoes. Why pillage the civilians for the acts of the leaders? I am not sure the children in Gaza should be put in the middle of al this. Hearts and minds, IMHO.
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They voted Hamas into power, they made their bed, time to lie in it.
I also do now want the average man in the street, women or children to suffer, but when it's my woman or child or them, sorry, but it ain't gonna be mine.
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