Google, We Put the “O” in OPPRESSION

**Team Sergeant** · 06-08-2006, 09:01

Google, We Help Put the “O” in OPPRESSION!

(Brin you are a spineless little man.)

TS

Google Says It May Revisit China Censorship Policies

By Keith Regan
E-Commerce Times
06/07/06 11:45 AM PT

Search giant Google (Nasdaq: GOOG) may seek to alter terms of the agreement it made in order to conduct its Web search business in China. Google co-founder Sergey Brin suggested the move after admitting the company's decision to agree to censorship conflicts with its philosophy and famous "do no evil" motto.

Brin has acknowledged in the past that Google's deal with China's communist government to censor certain search terms "wasn't what we ideally would like." However, the company has said that the opportunity to do business in China was too great to ignore, and argued that having a presence there could, over time, lead to more openness and free speech.

On Tuesday, Brin went a step further, saying the company may even reverse its earlier decision to agree to the censorship.

http://www.ecommercetimes.com/rsstory/50964.html

one-zero · 06-08-2006, 09:43

Crush the chinese people by supporting the regime...but God forbid he helps USG in ID'ing Assbags using his service for research/tgt pkgs against America...

Guys like him and Soros who made their fortunes only by the grace of being in USA just don't get it

Slantwire · 06-08-2006, 09:57

Should have removed the filters without making a statement. See how many people could find new and interesting ideas before the ChiComs noticed.

**Razor** · 06-08-2006, 10:22

Do no evil, unless there's lots of money in it.

Tying into the leadership thread -- how much are your principles worth?

Huey14 · 06-08-2006, 10:36

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Originally Posted by Pinhead

Should have removed the filters without making a statement. See how many people could find new and interesting ideas before the ChiComs noticed.

You'll find the filtered pages are blocked anyway.

mugwump · 06-08-2006, 11:54

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Originally Posted by Huey14

You'll find the filtered pages are blocked anyway.

Thanks to Cisco.

**Team Sergeant** · 06-08-2006, 12:13

"We felt that perhaps we could compromise our principles but provide ultimately more information for the Chinese and be a more effective service and perhaps make more of a difference," Brin said. "Perhaps now the principled approach makes more sense." Sergey Brin co-founder google

They didn't "compromise" their principles, they sold them.

vsvo · 06-08-2006, 14:58

Playboy published an interview with Larry Page and Sergey Brin in the September 2004 issue, which got them in hot water with the SEC based on the company's pending IPO (I had to read the article for class

). When asked what the company's motto meant, CEO Eric Schmidt replied, "Evil is whatever Sergey says is evil." Brin responded, "...we have tried to define precisely what it means to be a force for good - always to do the right, ethical thing."

The interviewer asked specifically about China, which had already blocked Google. At that time, several companies had already capitulated to China's demands on censorship, in return for access to the market.

Quote:

PB: Have you ever agreed to conditions set by the Chinese government?

BRIN: No, and China never demanded such things....To be fair to China, it never made any explicit demands regarding censoring material. That's not to say I'm happy about the policies of other portals that have established a presence there.

PB: What would you do if you had to choose between compromising search results and being unavailable to millions of Chinese?

BRIN: There are difficult questions, difficult challenges. Sometimes the "Don't be evil" policy leads to many discussions about what exactly is evil. One thing we know is that people can make better decisions with better information.

Apparently, selling out is not "evil." Welcome to the public markets, Sergey.

vsvo · 06-09-2006, 12:43

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"It's perfectly reasonable to do something different, to say, 'Look, we're going to stand by the principle against censorship and we won't actually operate there.' That's an alternate path," Brin said. "It's not where we chose to go right now, but I can sort of see how people came to different conclusions about doing the right thing."

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I saw the update TS posted in the MySpace thread. WTF is this guy talking about, I know he's way smarter than I am, but did he say this with a straight face? I can "sort of" see how this shows that sticking to your principles really is "something different."

Upon further thought, I guess this sell-out should not shock anyone, coming from a guy who thinks it's OK to generate revenue from reading and analyzing people's email messages.

x SF med · 06-09-2006, 13:25

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Originally Posted by vsvo

Upon further thought, I guess this sell-out should not shock anyone, coming from a guy who thinks it's OK to generate revenue from reading and analyzing people's email messages.

Hmmmm.... kinda like the No Speak About

vsvo · 06-09-2006, 16:33

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Originally Posted by x_sf_med

Hmmmm.... kinda like the No Speak About

At least they're doing it presumably to hunt terrorists. Google does it to grab more advertising fees.

x SF med · 06-09-2006, 16:48

vsvo-
are you sure? healthy skepticism and a moderate amount of paranoia will keep you from being too surprised by the bad guys, or even the good guys

vsvo · 06-09-2006, 20:24

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Originally Posted by x_sf_med

vsvo-
are you sure? healthy skepticism and a moderate amount of paranoia will keep you from being too surprised by the bad guys, or even the good guys

About which part, Google?

**Dan** · 02-19-2007, 07:34

Did anyone notice...

Yesterday Google made a special image for their search engine logo and linked it to the Chinese New Year info...but today they don't even acknowledge Presidents Day?!?!?

**Team Sergeant** · 02-19-2007, 08:25

I've also read they (the two geeks that invented the search engine but counld not get a date) are eco friendly but purchased a custom 767 built for two. Money talks with those two.