Trouble at Oregon University

TFM · 05-19-2006, 13:08

Saw this on the Pentagon channel. Admin. at the college have yet to take action.

'Jesus with erection' ignites outrage
Student newspaper publishes drawings in response to Muhammad 'toons

Posted: April 26, 2006
5:00 p.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Cover of the Insurgent (image altered for propriety).

A Catholic activist organization has written to Oregon's governor and state lawmakers to protest a University of Oregon student newspaper for having published cartoons showing Jesus Christ naked and with an erection.

In its March edition, the Insurgent, an "alternative" student paper on the Eugene, Ore., campus printed 12 hand-drawn cartoons of Jesus as a response to rival paper the Commentator having published the controversial cartoons of Muhammad originally published in Europe that sparked Muslim riots worldwide. The Insurgent claimed it published the drawings to "provoke dialogue."

William Donohue, president of the Catholic League, said the university's president, Dave Frohnmayer, had been unresponsive to complaints about the drawings, so he had written to the governor, every state legislators and the chancellor of the Oregon University System, among others.

Drawing featured inside paper spanning two pages (image altered for propriety).

"The March edition of the Insurgent ... was one of the most obscene assaults on Christianity I have ever seen," Donohue said in a statement. "To make sure that the persons I wrote to understand how vile this attack was, I sent a photocopy of the two most offensive graphics: one was a depiction of a naked Jesus on the cross with an erection; the other, titled 'Resurrection,' showed a naked Jesus kissing another naked man, both sporting erections."

Donohue also says there were other depictions of Jesus on the cross that were "so gratuitously offensive that only the most depraved would defend them." He also noted the paper published two commentaries attacking Catholicism.

"That all of this appeared in a student newspaper, during Lent, on the campus of a state institution, makes one wonder what is going on at the University of Oregon," added Donohue.

While not describing the more sexual drawings, the main student newspaper at the university, the Oregon Daily Emerald, also criticized the Insurgent.

"The Insurgent editorial indicates a desire to show Americans why the original cartoons were so offensive to the Muslim world," wrote the editor of the Emerald. "According to the editorial, 'What is "not a big deal" in the US (sic) is apparently a humongous big deal to others. Why should we assume it would not be?'

"However, printing home-grown cartoons depicting Jesus on a cross/pogo stick or Jesus on a cross/hangliding apparatus are not inflammatory in the same manner as the anti-Islam cartoons, and therefore fail to produce the intended empathy from Christians to Muslims."

Added the paper: "Unlike the Danish cartoons, the Insurgent drawings seem intended to simply incite controversy for controversy's sake rather than making specific social commentaries."

A spokesman for Frohnmayer contacted WorldNetDaily after press time to say that the university president had posted a statement regarding the controversy surrounding the cartoons:

"I share your concern about the offensive nature of the content contained within the publication.

"I understand why it may seem as if the University should have prevented publication or should take some action against those responsible for the publication. The Student Insurgent is not owned, controlled or published by the University of Oregon and is funded with student fees. Therefore, the University cannot exercise editorial control over its content.

"The best response to offensive speech often is more speech. ... I am strongly opposed to speech that makes individuals feel that they or their beliefs are unwelcome or belittled, and I can assure you I will use all permissible means to respond to publications such as the recent Insurgent."

sf11b_p · 05-19-2006, 13:16

I wonder if they, the students, recognize the difference of response, in that they've not been forced into hiding due threats, real threats not angered venting, to behead them and kill their families. That there are no riots with smoke coming from burning cars and no deaths from tramplings or attacks.

TFM · 05-19-2006, 13:45

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Originally Posted by sf11b_p

I wonder if they, the students, recognize the difference of response, in that they've not been forced into hiding due threats, real threats not angered venting, to behead them and kill their families. That there are no riots with smoke coming from burning cars and no deaths from tramplings or attacks.

Interesting question. It was asked to them on the segment I saw, and they really had no answer.

**Pete** · 05-19-2006, 14:24

When are libs ever going to learn that what they do here is only allowed because we are "America"?

They are working so hard to turn us into another rat hole third world country that I can only shake my head.

When will they learn?

When they are drug out into the street and lined up against the wall. Only then will they "find God", wish they had some guns...wish, wish, wish a bunch of things.

Funny how they think Christians, Conservatives and the Military are the "Real Enemy".

OK, rant off.

Pete

Warrior-Mentor · 05-19-2006, 14:29

Fucking Trolls.

The sole purpose is to incite vs make an intelligent commentary.

What is their point? To get attention.

What should we do?

Ignore them. It's worse than kryptonite to a troll.

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**Bill Harsey** · 05-19-2006, 16:15

How much do you guys want to know about Duck-U in Eugene Oregon?

I went to school there, should be some proof of edited to point at this-garduation see, I really did go there.around here somewhere but I wouldn't know where to look. Even taught a class there once. It's been a long time since I've had any respect for that place except for letting Kellen Clemens play football there. I like the football coach, he's a class act.

As both an alumn of duck-u and tax paying citizen of this state, this disgusts me but doesn't surprise me.

Edited to add, the school pres is a board certified wimp. The publication in question is funded by moneys taken from required fees paid by students (students have zero effective say in how these "taxed" dollars are spent ) and the office for this publication is supplied by the university.

JMI · 05-19-2006, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by sf11b_p

I wonder if they, the students, recognize the difference of response, in that they've not been forced into hiding due threats, real threats not angered venting, to behead them and kill their families. That there are no riots with smoke coming from burning cars and no deaths from tramplings or attacks.

Excellent point. I don't really understand the sensitivity of people of religion, so it would not be fair for me to comment. I grew up Catholic my entire life, but nothing can really stir my passions unless they mess with my family. IMHO, God was ridiculed since the beginning of man, so I am sure God can handle it in God's own way.

**The Reaper** · 05-19-2006, 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Harsey

How much do you guys want to know about Duck-U in Eugene Oregon?

I went to school there, should be some proof of garduation around here somewhere but I wouldn't know where to look. Even taught a class there once. It's been a long time since I've had any respect for that place except for letting Kellen Clemens play football there. I like the football coach, he's a class act.

As both an alumn of duck-u and tax paying citizen of this state, this disgusts me but doesn't surprise me.

Edited to add, the school pres is a board certified wimp. The publication in question is funded by moneys taken from required fees paid by students (students have zero effective say in how these "taxed" dollars are spent ) and the office for this publication is supplied by the university.

Could I start a Young Republicans Club there?

First Amendment rights, correct?

How about a local chapter of the New Black Panthers or the Klan?

Could I make fun of black students in a student fee funded publication? Jews? The handicapped?

Is whipping the cartoonists' ass protected as just my way of expressing myself?

TR

**Jack Moroney (RIP)** · 05-19-2006, 19:28

Please, how seriously can you take any Univeristy that has duck for a mascot

**Bill Harsey** · 05-19-2006, 19:33

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Originally Posted by Jack Moroney

Please, how seriously can you take any Univeristy that has duck for a mascot

Hey! It's a FIGHTING Duck!

**Jack Moroney (RIP)** · 05-19-2006, 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Harsey

Hey! It's a FIGHTING Duck!

I bet your rooster can whip any FIGHTING Duck's butt

**Bill Harsey** · 05-19-2006, 19:43

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Originally Posted by Jack Moroney

I bet your rooster can whip any FIGHTING Duck's butt

It already has.

TR, The University of Oregon has a Young Republican group. They made the paper for protesting your buddy Ward Churchill's "sold out" speach he gave there last night.
The19 March 2006 Eugene Register Guard news paper, front page City-Region just below the fold shows Young republicans holding sign that says
"CHURCHILL EQUAL(s) TREASON while waving United States of America flags.

Of course the featured large portrait above this was Mr. Churchill.