Oh Really???

Goggles Pizano · 04-22-2006, 21:26

Well then if you hate us so much go the hell home!!!

http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/...611.shtml?s=ic

Chris · 04-22-2006, 21:35

To quote the Hag's The Fightin' Side Of Me - "If you don't love it, leave it"

Gypsy · 04-22-2006, 21:40

We're racist, huh? Yeah ok, I'm racist for wanting ANYONE who enters my Country illegally to be sent back from where they came.

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The same poll found that 76 percent of Mexicans think that crossing into the U.S. illegally should not be a crime.

79 percent of Mexicans want illegals already in the US to be legalized.

I have soooo many unlady-like yet colorful adjective and verb phrases for these folks.

12B4S · 04-23-2006, 04:23

LOL Gypsy. I live down here in AZ. To see that sh*t on our streets in this City is (can't type that here) . Great isn't it? Illegals, marching down the streets here, protesting against this country's laws..... sucking up on the welfare system, using the Emergency Rooms as thier Primary care health care........ FOR FREE!!!!!!!!!!

K done for now.........

Goggles Pizano · 04-23-2006, 08:08

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Originally Posted by 12B4S

..... sucking up on the welfare system, using the Emergency Rooms as thier Primary care health care........ FOR FREE!!!!!!!!!!

K done for now.........

They are not the only people in this country that use an ER as a clinic! In fact I have heard individuals brag about how many different names they have used and the same hospital continues to treat them...by law.

Gypsy · 04-23-2006, 09:03

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Originally Posted by 12B4S

LOL Gypsy. I live down here in AZ. To see that sh*t on our streets in this City is (can't type that here) . Great isn't it? Illegals, marching down the streets here, protesting against this country's laws..... sucking up on the welfare system, using the Emergency Rooms as thier Primary care health care........ FOR FREE!!!!!!!!!!

K done for now.........

It's sickening to put it mildly. If I were POTUS for a day...weeeeeeeellllll I'm just saying.

TFM · 04-23-2006, 11:28

We had a similar problem in south Florida with the Haitians and the Cubans. Cubans would get over because they use that Castro will kill us BS. Miami may as well be a part of Cuba as a result. There has been a lot of media coverage on this crap and its already ridiculous. Bottom line, the border needs to be sealed tight for more reasons than just keeping out Mexicans, and the smackdown needs to befall all those Employers who want to stiff Americans. Once that happens, problem solved. Let's see Washington pull it off. We are gonna have to make a bigger stink than our opposition to square this thing away.

MtnGoat · 04-23-2006, 11:43

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Originally Posted by 12B4S

I live down here in AZ. To see that sh*t on our streets in this City is (can't type that here) . Great isn't it? Illegals, marching down the streets here, protesting against this country's laws..... sucking up on the welfare system, using the Emergency Rooms as thier Primary care health care........ FOR FREE!!!!!!!!!!

Okay LEO why is it you and ERs can ask Illegals where their from. I know, well heard on the TV that LEO and First Responders can't ask a people (Illegals), that they feel are here Illegally. AL or RL Why??

Goggles Pizano · 04-24-2006, 09:38

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Originally Posted by MtnGoat

Okay LEO why is it you and ERs can ask Illegals where their from. I know, well heard on the TV that LEO and First Responders can't ask a people (Illegals), that they feel are here Illegally. AL or RL Why??

Oh we can ask! We can demand documantation all we like. The problem is the INS won't do anything about it (yes I was told this by an agent-off the record)! Even when we take someone into custody, book them, and contact INS we get bupkis in the form of a government response! This is the usual statement; "just release them, send us your paperwork, and we will follow up"....yeah, right.

CoLawman · 04-24-2006, 17:19

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Originally Posted by Goggles Pizano

Oh we can ask! We can demand documantation all we like. The problem is the INS won't do anything about it (yes I was told this by an agent-off the record)! Even when we take someone into custody, book them, and contact INS we get bupkis in the form of a government response! This is the usual statement; "just release them, send us your paperwork, and we will follow up"....yeah, right.

IN the 1970's through mid 80's law enforcement received great response from Immigration (now ICE). In fact if we contacted an illegal driving without a license we arrested them on that charge and ICE hold was put on them for deportation. Any illegal being booked into jail found himself with an ICE hold.

Then things began to change................we no longer conducted joint raids with ICE at local bars frequented by illegals, we no longer conducted joint raids with ICE at major employers of illegals. ICE would no longer deport individuals unless their crimes were felonies.

One can trace the rise in illegal population and crimes committed by illegals to this absolutely asinine change in policy.

I can assure you that the immigration problem would quickly be diminished if we went back to the former policy of deporting all illegals! We don't need walls or troops on the border. All that needs to be done is return to law enforcement agencies the ability to put holds on them ....The Good Ol Days!

All these elaborate plans are smoke and mirrors. The problem can be solved with current assets. End of Story!

bost1751 · 04-25-2006, 11:23

I could not agree with you more. Whille running the roads in CO I can't begin to recall the times I stopped loads of illegals, contacted INS and got the responce "get all their information so we can track them". This was after INS sent us a memo stating they would came out pick up loads of 15 or more. I never stopped a load with less than 12. The mule usually had enough cash to seize for evidence in traficing investigations. At least it hampered their trip a bit. Ins and the Troop Cdr would not go along with holding the money. I impounded vehicles and all sorts of things to make it hard on the illegals and put pressure on INS. A few weeks ago there was a trial in Federal court here, a domestic thing with a few interesting twists. in the course of the trial it was discovered the male, not in attendance, was illegal. The Federal District Judge had INS contacted to to go get the illegal. In keeping with the INS tradition the Judge was told by INS they were too busy.

The only time I ever saw INS do their job was on a couple of occasions when a van load crashed out in the middle of nowhere and all 17-18 where killed. they could not be identified etc. Yes, INS jumped through hoops then due to the media coverage. On a few occasions I contacted the INS LE desk in Chicago. they were very helpful, checked them out and put holds on them. The Local agent never came and picked them up so the county jail released them since it was evident they were eating the cost of housing them.

It is a sad case as you pointed out.

Bob1984 · 04-25-2006, 12:03

I'm just as disheartened as everyone else when it comes to how we've allowed people to enter the country illegally with no repercussions. I think the important question we need to ask is why have we, the people, allowed this ?

Oh, and racist is the wrong word. Mexican is NOT a race; the word refers to the national origin of people from Mexico. Anybody claiming that Mexicans all share the same ethnicity might as well suggest that Americans do too, because it's just as inaccurate and blatantly false.

What honestly frightens me is to see our politicians pandering to illegal immigrants. Before we know it, these people might end up being granted the right to vote in our elections, a right they did not earn through the legal process. Then Americans will truly become an oppressed majority.

Also, last I checked, it was a crime to aid and abet criminals. Illegal immigrants are criminals and I believe the organizations and people in the US that are attempting to aid them are committing a crime by doing so. It is a crime for an employer to hire people he/she knows are not legally entitled to work in this country.

If you want to become an American citizen, there is a legal process to go through. Why are the laws being treated like a joke ?

CoLawman · 04-25-2006, 18:10

We in law enforcement are waiting for this issue to be resolved. As a result of the Consular Convention certain rights were afforded to aliens, illegal and legal that someone failed to notify us about. The consulate of each alien arrested is to be notified upon an arrest!!! Well guess what.........hasn't been done! Several cases including "Avena" and "Medellin"are claiming since the consulates were not notified........exclusionary rule applies. This is working it's way through the appeals process with a bunch of latin legal diversions and Executive Orders from POTUS. The largest population to be effected is Mexican aliens, no surprise here.

This could get ugly!

12B4S · 04-26-2006, 03:17

There is NO way, I could ever respond to all the above and do the 'quote' thing.

Howver most is dead on. The lib Gov down here nixed a bill that would allow Leo's to ask a person's citizen status. Well more like, demand proof. As was stated earlier by some Leo's on here. Down here they can ask that and anything else they want. It's just that the whoever's don't have to answer.

These illegals comming over have been schooled in all this. SOooooooooooooo, no big deal!! Another thing, I know local cops could call ICE allllllllllll week long and get nowhere.

Again, there is more.........

Oh yeah. If an illegal gets a runny nose......... off to the emergency room for some FREE health care. Hell!! Doesn't matter if I'm wheeled into an ER with a sucking chest wound or whatever....... I will be charged, not having health insurance, hunted down and hounded for years.......... Not the illegals though. Oh sorry. Sometimes I lose my PC stuff. Not illegals.... 'undocumented workers' That's better. Then again. If I were a burgler and caught ripping off one of these million/2 million dollar houses around here........ I'd just claim to be an undocumented shopper...........

bost1751 · 04-26-2006, 06:53

A few years ago CO settled a law suit that was absolutely crazy. A trooper made a stop in eastern CO and the driver was a Mexican. Nothing surprising there. In the course of his questioning to determine if the driver was illegal the trooper asked the driver was he was born. Bam-law suit. The CO State Patrol told all of us the question was a good question, appropriate to determine if the driver was illegtal, but to get rid of the law suit they settled for $10K. Now that is a crock of sh--! We were all told not to ask drivers where they born after that cluster.