04-13-2006, 10:47
|
#1
|
|
Asset
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 29
|
Thanks but I must move on
I wanted to thank everyone on this forum for your insight and sharing your knowledge. I will be moving on due to my disqualification from the Army. I have been medically DQ due to a childhood injury. I fought the system all the way to the Chief Surgeon of the National Guard but still DQ. I even personal went and saw a spine specialist, who cleared me “fit to fight” but still I lost. The thing that boggles my mind is that I am a firefighter and have no problems performing for job and I have passed multiple physicals but the Army won’t even physical me. I humbly accept it and move on.
The information I have learned from this site and Warrior-Mentors book will always stick with me and help me in every area of my life.
Thanks and be Strong,
Chris
__________________
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." – John F. Kennedy
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me” - Jesus
“Opportunity is missed by most people because it dressed in overalls and looks like work.” – Thomas Edison
|
|
Rodeo is offline
|
|
04-13-2006, 10:52
|
#2
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland
Posts: 24,821
|
Sorry that you couldn't get in.
No need to leave the site just because of that. Plenty of contributing people here who are unable to join SF because of gender, age, injuries, etc.
Good luck to you regardless. You can always say that you tried.
TR
__________________
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910
De Oppresso Liber 01/20/2025
|
|
The Reaper is offline
|
|
04-13-2006, 10:55
|
#3
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Asscrackistan
Posts: 4,289
|
more to do than just the military
Rodeo,
Good luck and keep your head always high.
Keep in mind that you can still do a lot for whatever your reason was to enter the military on the civilian side of the house.  You may not play with Guns, Demo and Bombs. Well.... Maybe  But you can go to college and get a Gov't job, work for the military as a Civilian, even go overseas for KBR, Dyno-Corp, and many others.
So continue doing what you can for your dream as far as you can.
VG
__________________
"Berg Heil"
History teaches that when you become indifferent and lose the will to fight someone who has the will to fight will take over."
COLONEL BULL SIMONS
Intelligence failures are failures of command [just] as operations failures are command failures.”
|
|
MtnGoat is offline
|
|
04-13-2006, 11:12
|
#4
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: OCONUS...again
Posts: 4,702
|
Rodeo,
There are other avenues that you could pursue, they need FF overseas. We had one in Haiti, entire towns would have burnt down if it wasn't for him.
Stay safe.
__________________
“It is better to have sheep led by a lion than lions led by a sheep.”
-DE OPPRESSO LIBER-
|
|
Guy is offline
|
|
04-13-2006, 11:28
|
#5
|
|
Gun Pilot
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Iowa and New Mexico
Posts: 2,143
|
What they said!
No need to leave the site. Good luck.
Terry
__________________
E7-CW3-direct commission VN
B model gunship pilot 65-66 Soc Trang, Cobra Pilot 68-69-70 Can Tho Life member 101st Airborne Association
|
|
CPTAUSRET is offline
|
|
04-13-2006, 13:04
|
#6
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: America, the Beautiful
Posts: 3,193
|
Roger that...keep your head up. You made a decision and did your best to follow through on it...which is more than many can say and is all anyone can ever ask...do your best.
Stick around...I'm sure FS will get herself into a corner for some more food fights sooner or later.
|
|
Warrior-Mentor is offline
|
|
04-13-2006, 16:34
|
#7
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bangkok
Posts: 856
|
Thanks for daring to try.
Chin up!
You have to believe that the Big Ranger has other plans for you.
__________________
1st Platoon "Bad 'Muthers," Company A, 2d Ranger Battalion, 1980-1984;
ODA 151, Company B, 2d Battalion, 1SFGA, 1984-1986.
SFQC 04-84; Ranger class 14-81.
|
|
magician is offline
|
|
04-13-2006, 19:25
|
#8
|
|
Operator
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Over Here and down a bit.
Posts: 101
|
Rodeo,
Move to Australia, join there Army - Theyll take anyone!
__________________
"This is the work of the SAS"
"How can you tell?"
"Body Count.”
-=Ultimate Farce=-
(Ultimate Force (Farce) is a TV show for those who havent seen it)
|
|
zeroalpha is offline
|
|
04-13-2006, 22:41
|
#9
|
|
Asset
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 29
|
Thanks for support. I will stick around and continue to learn but playing with guns and blowing things up was one of the things I was looking forward to.
What they said
They state that I have chronic neck and back pain which is just crazy because I don’t. My recruiter and I don’t even know where they gathered that from. We asked them multiple times to show how they came to that conclusion. There response is from the information provided. Armed with their response I went and found my own specialist to look me over. He doesn’t understand because I have nothing wrong with me. Very weird!! My recruiter is frustrated because I am the third person that is physically fit, scored well on the ASVAB and is committed to being the best that has been turned away with some odd medical reason.
Another weird thing is I spoke with a Lt. Colonel today that told me to contact my congressman and to talk to a person in his office about this situation. This Lt. Colonel is now retired after serving for 26 years in the National Guard. He told me that sometimes you have to break the chain of command to get the right thing done. Especially after all other avenues how been exhausted. I guess I have a phone call to make tomorrow.
Never Quit,
Chris
__________________
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." – John F. Kennedy
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me” - Jesus
“Opportunity is missed by most people because it dressed in overalls and looks like work.” – Thomas Edison
|
|
Rodeo is offline
|
|
04-13-2006, 22:58
|
#10
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: LA
Posts: 1,653
|
There ya go.
__________________
Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?
|
|
NousDefionsDoc is offline
|
|
04-14-2006, 07:54
|
#11
|
|
Asset
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 37
|
Perhaps looking over your Medical Questionnaire. In all those "yes" "no" boxes you might have marked "yes" to any question about chronic neck & back pain. I've been at MEPS when it seemed to take an act of G-d to make the MEPS staff understand that the prospective recruit marked the form incorrectly. A hundred years ago (17 but who's counting) when I went to MEPS the recruiter actually had us DEP'ers fill out these questionnaires over and over again at his office to avoid what you're going thru....if that is the case with you.
The MEPS philosophy is you filled the form and signed it verifying the info was true & correct. Once you are disqualified, now you want to change your answers. It's akin to failing a math test and then telling the professor you didn't mean to write that answer down......it's too late. Most of the disqualifications I've seen are based on what the candidate checked off. The staff can only go based on what you tell them and put on the form.
Since the reason, you presented, for your disqualification seems benign I would work to get it resolved. Just.....be careful what you wish for.
__________________
It's easier to ask forgiveness than to ask permission...however the path to least resistance leads to crooked rivers and crooked men.
|
|
Croooz is offline
|
|
04-14-2006, 12:42
|
#12
|
|
BANNED USER
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 533
|
Atta boy. Never give up.
|
|
JMI is offline
|
|
04-14-2006, 13:58
|
#13
|
|
Guerrilla
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 181
|
I can empathize. It took me a year to get into the Army. I had surgery to remove a piece of one of my lower discs. I started from the top down as far as getting in though. I got the numbers to 2 individuals through much persistance. Harrassing these two was my ticket in. I got turned down by the Command Surgeon once after a year of work, but I called a Colonel up there who I had made contact with about a week after getting the bad news. He agreed to look at it again, and he approved my waiver. This is based on a letterrecommendation from an LTC in the Surgeon General's office, who only spoke to me by phone. I don't recall if I sent him anything from my doc, I doubt it. My motivation for continuing to try after countless rejections and obstacles was SF. My reasoning was that if the main theme/mindset behind SF is to never quit, I could not give up trying until there was absolutely no possibilies left. Here I am. I got into the Army, but I could not get an 18X contract. This is because MEPS could not give me and airborne phys at with a waiver in my packet. Having got that far, I didn't look back. However, SF may or may not be in my future now. I'm just trying to master my current job before looking into anything else. I hope you get something out of my spiel. Take Care.
TFM
|
|
TFM is offline
|
|
04-14-2006, 15:07
|
#14
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Destin, FL
Posts: 80
|
Rodeo,
Just gotta let you know that I had a few issues entering the military (the second time) , although they weren't medical. My Congressman was able to get shit done (even though he was a Dem). It really was amazing and it didn't take forever. Of course, I called the office every day for about 3 months, so I'm sure they couldn't wait to get rid of me. Try that course of action because it just might work. Good Luck.
Phil
|
|
TitratetoEffect is offline
|
|
07-20-2006, 10:08
|
#15
|
|
Asset
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 29
|
Update!!
First of all, thank you for all the encouragement and advice. After I received my rejection I wrote to Senator Bob Bennet and Senator Orrin Hatch, both Utah Senators. I received letters from both senators office stating that everything has been done and that there was nothing left to be done. That wasn’t good enough for me so I wrote both Senators back stating I appreciate them taking the time to look over my case but if there anything else I could do. On Monday I received a personal letter from Senator Hatch stating that he has looked over my case and he thinks it needs to be looked at again by a higher authority so he forwarded my case to the Secretary of Defense.
Never Quit
__________________
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." – John F. Kennedy
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me” - Jesus
“Opportunity is missed by most people because it dressed in overalls and looks like work.” – Thomas Edison
|
|
Rodeo is offline
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:25.
|
|
|