Good SF movies?

[MR2]

We were flying in from somewhere, Alaska or Oregon I think, back to our home base at Ft. Collins, CO for a night combat equipment jump. The DZ was a wheat stubble south of town. Most of our jumps there were C-130's that came from the south and could veer off and avoid flying over town. That night, the C-141 roared in low and slow, north to south right over the city towards the drop zone, pooping out dark parachutes with steely-eyed killers dangling beneath.

That night it also happened to be the TV network premiere of the movie Red Dawn...
Apparently the sheriff and local police fielded scores of phone calls about paratroopers invading...

And there I was...

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by ZonieDiver

Lighten up, Francis!

Yeah, there's that.

One of the issues with Red Dawn is that the film premiered towards the end of the 1984 Olympic Games. In L.A., there was a profound sense of disappointment that after embarrassing the Soviets thoroughly, we were the source of a film that was both inflammatory and sucky.

I much preferred the television movie World War III (1982).

Speaking of David Soul, 'memba this <<LINK>>?

[animalmenace]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

Had Jennifer Grey sat on my lap in the Cinerama Dome and whispered promises of a night of frolic while I watched that clunker, Red Dawn would still have been among the worst films I saw that decade. (And we're talking about a list that includes Band of the Hand, Conan the Destroyer, and The Last Starfighter.

If you thought the original Red Dawn was bad, just wait till the remake comes out. Instead of Soviets, it's North Koreans. That's right, a country with a population of 25 million starving people invades and occupies the United States.
Also, don't rag on The Last Starfighter, that movie is great.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by animalmenace

If you thought the original Red Dawn was bad, just wait till the remake comes out. Instead of Soviets, it's North Koreans.

It was gonna be Chicoms but they bought the studio.

MR2: That's a great story.

Originally Posted by MR2

We were flying in from somewhere, Alaska or Oregon I think, back to our home base at Ft. Collins, CO for a night combat equipment jump. The DZ was a wheat stubble south of town. Most of our jumps there were C-130's that came from the south and could veer off and avoid flying over town. That night, the C-141 roared in low and slow, north to south right over the city towards the drop zone, pooping out dark parachutes with steely-eyed killers dangling beneath.

That night it also happened to be the TV network premiere of the movie Red Dawn...
Apparently the sheriff and local police fielded scores of phone calls about paratroopers invading...

And there I was...

Reminds me of what happened back in 1938.........http://www.war-of-the-worlds.org/Radio/

My grandfather, a Lt on the Jersey City, NJ PD, heard the broadcast and thought it was really happening.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by WCH

Reminds me of what happened back in 1938.........http://www.war-of-the-worlds.org/Radio/

My grandfather, a Lt on the Jersey City, NJ PD, heard the broadcast and thought it was really happening.

lol Same thing happened to me with Obamatax. But it was real.

Originally Posted by Airbornelawyer

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I wouldn't necessarily call them "good" SF movies, but I suppose technically the First Blood/Rambo franchise qualifies. John Rambo is a one-man force-multiplier in the first movie, tying down larger numbers of local cops and National Guardsmen in his UW operation...

Rambo, First Blood was on again last night. Yep, I stayed up watching it again, sad, but probably one of the few movies I can quote almost verbatim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACMG9ZMcUvs

[animalmenace]

Originally Posted by MR2

We were flying in from somewhere, Alaska or Oregon I think, back to our home base at Ft. Collins, CO for a night combat equipment jump. The DZ was a wheat stubble south of town. Most of our jumps there were C-130's that came from the south and could veer off and avoid flying over town. That night, the C-141 roared in low and slow, north to south right over the city towards the drop zone, pooping out dark parachutes with steely-eyed killers dangling beneath.

That night it also happened to be the TV network premiere of the movie Red Dawn...
Apparently the sheriff and local police fielded scores of phone calls about paratroopers invading...

And there I was...

Reminds me of one of the demos at SOFIC this year. Waking up to miniguns and explosions in downtown Miami has gotta be disconcerting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=j1BhRNfY1lo

[miclo18d]

Originally Posted by greenberetTFS

Interesting video on SF training of Guerrilla forces.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RS7w...are_video_user

Big Teddy

It reminds me a bit about that mission I did into Pineland! Very similar as the Pinelanders spoke English of the Redneck dialect.

Snatching the guy out of the restaurant reminded me of my PW snatch at the True Bluegrass in Eleazer, Pineland. Of course we ended up killing him instead of capturing him... mission fail.

And on that film....I loved the Rucksack flop when they meet the G's!

[animalmenace]

Sorry to bump my own thread to repeat a question. I don't like to do it, but I think it is important to the topic.

Films based on real events always contain factual errors or at least general inaccuracies, whether to simplify events or for dramatic effect. Black Hawk Down is a good example. Do people find this disrespectful, and, if so, would it be preferable to have a fictional story that realistically and authentically portrays SF (or SOF in general)?

[ZonieDiver]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

I much preferred the television movie World War III (1982).

Speaking of David Soul, 'memba this <<LINK>>?

Is that the one where he put Alaska Scouts into the corrugated drainage pipes (similarly to the way some ancient Greeks, Romans, etc were deployed) in order to defeat the invading Soviet paratroopers? If so, the reaction from me was the same one I had when I watched Ice Station Zebra (Soviet paratroopers vs USMC), I rooted for the Russkies!

As for Don't Give Up On Me, I did! In the video, he looks like a chick! That said, both ventures are miles ahead of his faux Bogie!

[plato]

Originally Posted by animalmenace

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Films based on real events always contain factual errors or at least general inaccuracies, whether to simplify events or for dramatic effect. Black Hawk Down is a good example. Do people find this disrespectful, and, if so, would it be preferable to have a fictional story that realistically and authentically portrays SF (or SOF in general)?

I think you're comparing apples to apples. Films based on real events are part true, part fiction. Films that are fictional but portray actions and attributes that are realistic are part true, part fiction.

I hope that anyone watching a "based on real events" movie realizes that the only part that isn't fabricated may be that once upon a time a woman gave birth, just like in THIS movie.

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by plato

I think you're comparing apples to apples.

Do you mean apples to oranges?

[KW9598]

#1- a film (if you could make it into one 2+ hour show) about SOG and their unbelievable missions is long overdue. Has anyone suggested this to a script writer? SOG and John "Tilt" Myers book Across the Fence are prime examples of intense TRUE accounts of SF operations in Vietnam.

#2 I thought DeNiro did a respectable job portraying a Green Beret character in The Deer Hunter. Its a great film and his role as a Green Beret was especially critical to what happens in Vietnam while on duty and his following trip after his service.

#3 A good friend of mine (and former SEAL) Kenny Taylor stars in a film titled The Objective. Fairly good film and he did well playing the team sergeant, for never really being on an SF team.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0962711/

[animalmenace]

Originally Posted by plato

I think you're comparing apples to apples. Films based on real events are part true, part fiction. Films that are fictional but portray actions and attributes that are realistic are part true, part fiction.

I hope that anyone watching a "based on real events" movie realizes that the only part that isn't fabricated may be that once upon a time a woman gave birth, just like in THIS movie.

The difference is when a film is trying to portray real men and their real actions. Not saying a movie based on real events should perfectly replicate every single detail, but if you're portraying the real sacrifices of these men you should get it close. Unfortunately that doesn't always work for a movie.